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« Reply #240 on: October 27, 2005, 11:11:01 pm »
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Yeah, it was only a rumor.


Okay, then I guess you win this round.

FF8 still sucks.

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« Reply #241 on: October 27, 2005, 11:15:36 pm »
Oh yeah, debating was a boxing match. I forgot...silly me.

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« Reply #242 on: October 27, 2005, 11:19:23 pm »
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Oh yeah, debating was a boxing match. I forgot...silly me.


LOL :lol:

But the story was based of off romance, it even says it on the back of the case. The big plot twist was them

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they all went to the same orphanage


But the only good thing out of it...

Laguna.

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« Reply #243 on: October 27, 2005, 11:26:38 pm »
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Oh yeah, debating was a boxing match. I forgot...silly me.


LOL :lol:

But the story was based of off romance, it even says it on the back of the case. The big plot twist was them

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they all went to the same orphanage


But the only good thing out of it...

Laguna.


I still like it, whether it wasn't as good as the others or not, but I don't like Disc 4 much, except for the ending movie.

Forget Laguna. Moombas, man. Moombas are awesome.

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« Reply #244 on: October 28, 2005, 04:23:00 am »
FF8 was gold. How can you not like it. OK, tell me this, out of the 3D ffs (ff7, ff8, ff9, ffx, ffx2 and ffxi) which ones do you like? (you meaning people who dont like ff8)
plus, the romance part of ff8 was truly beautful, more so then any other game.

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« Reply #245 on: October 28, 2005, 10:31:29 am »
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plus, the romance part of ff8 was truly beautful, more so then any other game.


Ok, stop right there.  The 'romance part' of FF8 was its worst aspect, which I found particularly disappointing as I am a big romantic and was really looking forward to the love story.  I had just gotten married a few months before the game came out, and couldn't wait to see the tried and true tail of an anti-social "self-reliant"  teenage boy who thinks he’s got everything figured  out until a dark-haired girl whom is his polar opposite comes along and totally screws up his world view for the better.  If you turned Squall in to a black guy and took away the GF's that’s basically the story of Mr. and Mrs. Silvercry.

Here come the spoilers!

So imagine my disappointment when, after two discs of Squall treating Rinoa like a mere responsibility at best, and a liability at worse, she falls in a coma and he's suddenly all.  "Oh no! I must save her, no matter what it takes, rest of the world be damned!!!"  Much like the Orphanage revelation, and the Ultimecia revelation, this smacks of out-of-nowhere-ism, which FF VIII reeks of.  There are parts of the game I like.  I don’t think it deserves all the crap it gets from people like Sentenal, but this aspect of the storyline was fundamental flawed.  Worse Love Story Ever, I had called it once.  A few years later I saw Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones, and FFVIII quickly lost that title.

In the many, times I've replayed that game I've tried to find any hint of Squall's feelings for Rinoa prior to her falling after the second battle with Edea, and I've come up with nothing.  If anything, he resents eveyone else trying to push them together, and during the festival, he nearly smacks her for being an idiot.  By the time they do get around to "admitting" they feel something for one another, I was so jaded by the terrible buildup to that moment, that the whole thing fell flat.

Spoilers End.

So yeah, that’s my take.  If anything FF X (which I loathe entirely) had a better love story, the evolving of feelings between Tidus and Yuna were believable.  Awkward.  Honest.  Difficult.  Heart-warming then finally heart-breaking.  To the point where I could care less about everything else in X-2 (which I also hate) so long as I can get 100% completion and get those two back together where they belong.  No, I don’t count that as a Spoiler.  What did you think was going to happen with 100% completion?  I mean, really.

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« Reply #246 on: October 28, 2005, 11:38:41 am »
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FF8 was gold. How can you not like it. OK, tell me this, out of the 3D ffs (ff7, ff8, ff9, ffx, ffx2 and ffxi) which ones do you like? (you meaning people who dont like ff8)
plus, the romance part of ff8 was truly beautful, more so then any other game.


Well, VIII pretty much revolved around the love story (as this was the point)...So if you liked that you probably liked the game, if you didn't, the story kind of falls flat on ya...I was okay w/it...I, like Silvercry mentions, do not like Squall's 180 mid-game.

So, although I don't not like ff8...I must say that both FFTactics and FFIX exceed it in the many ways that matter.

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« Reply #247 on: October 28, 2005, 01:21:57 pm »
Squall's turnaround wasn't all-at-once, it was a bit more gradual. He did wanna bring her back, but he wasn't certain why at first. He wasn't sure if it was all because of duty or because of this 'new feeling' called "care"...but yeah, the love story was weak.

...dammit, couldn't they have given Anakin a better actor? His character goes through so much shit that anyone who can convey any sort of passion, pain, or emotion in the slightest would've done a much better job.

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« Reply #248 on: October 28, 2005, 04:21:20 pm »
Firstly, I did say I enjoyed the first part of the game, and the graphics were decent for a PSX game, so I'm not saying its the worst thing ever made.  And Silvercry is right in most of what he said, other than saying that I give it undeserved crap.

the 3-D Final Fantasy games, in order from best to worst:

FF7, FF9, FF10, FF8, FF10-2.  I won't even count FF11.

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« Reply #249 on: October 28, 2005, 04:54:35 pm »
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the 3-D Final Fantasy games, in order from best to worst:

FF7, FF9, FF10, FF8, FF10-2.  I won't even count FF11.


I'm shocked and amazed that you can rate that awful FFX above FF8. Most the complaints you had about 8 were magnified in X, and worse.

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« Reply #250 on: October 28, 2005, 06:27:20 pm »
X was awesome as hell, dude.  Even Tidus' voice actor was good, no matter what anyone says about him.

The love story between Anakin and Padme is perfectly tenable if you understand why they're acting the way they are, and what happened to bring them to that point.  It requires a bit of thought, and not just feeling your way through it like most other love stories.  Their story is extremely Shakespearian in its tragedy factor, only it's better because it has explosions and Hayden Christensen gets set on fire.

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« Reply #251 on: October 28, 2005, 06:35:56 pm »
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The love story between Anakin and Padme is perfectly tenable if you understand why they're acting the way they are, and what happened to bring them to that point.  It requires a bit of thought, and not just feeling your way through it like most other love stories.


(I'm so going to regret this, but...)

Please elaborate.  I really want to like that aspect of the saga, but have yet to bring myself to because, well, it sucks balls, to put it simply.  So if you’ve noticed something that countless millions others have missed, please share it.

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« Reply #252 on: October 28, 2005, 08:07:31 pm »
I don't have a problem with it story-wise, it's just horribly acted out and scripted. I mean even Natalie Portman, who's a great actress in other movies, gave a half-assed performance. These things aren't always the fault of the actor/actress, often it's the Director. Hence why George Lucas should no longer write scripts or direct, or at least let the actors handle their roles their own way. Who knows, maybe Hayden Christensen is a better actor than these movies made him out to be?

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« Reply #253 on: October 28, 2005, 09:40:40 pm »
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Who knows, maybe Hayden Christensen is a better actor than these movies made him out to be?


I doubt it.

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« Reply #254 on: October 28, 2005, 09:59:04 pm »
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Who knows, maybe Hayden Christensen is a better actor than these movies made him out to be?


I doubt it.


I agree, he has no emotion what so ever. He just drones on and on through the entire movie