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« on: September 24, 2005, 06:37:15 am »
Omg, I just found this whilst reading a RD FAQ at GameFAQs.. OMFG!!!! It's apparently from the Japanese translation or something.

Quote from: Radical Dreamers Storyline FAQ by Zelda Dude at GameFAQs

   The last part of this FAQ will be the main objective which is to clear up all
confusion regarding this long overdrawn incident once and for all. First of all
in the end of CT, during the new FMV's Magus is shown going into the forest to
search for Schala, but the game never says anything else. Unfortunately it took
the script writers to get a clear explanation of what happened. Magus goes off
with Alfador, who seems to ignore everything and heads to look for her. However
Magus says he is going to go back into the past to find Schala. The funny thing
is what the scenario writer says on it is very confusing:
"While we intended for Guile to be Magus, we did not make this intention clear
enough and changed his clothes to make people no believe he was Magus. Guile is
actually based off a character in Radical Dreamers which is believed to be
Magus, and guides Kid through the game. However while we made it so Magus was
to be the one doing the time hop, we decided to rework the events so that Janus
was the one. This is how the area of Radical Dreamers turns out in the end."
While he states they in fact intended Guile to be Magus, the way they word it
is not something that any right hand gamer can just off the fly understand.
When decoding the real wording and intention, here is what is so:

During the time Magus left to go search for Schala, was during the exact
incident where Janus is supposedly going to go through dimensions crossing
over. However, when this event transpires, it is at the exact same moment which
the Time Crash occurs. Janus instead who can not time hop, does get spliced
into the dimensional vortex creating a rupture which makes several unconscious
Time Doppelgangers, which are not aware of anything because those dimensions
themselves have been created. The same time Janus stepped through the portal,
all of a sudden the Radical Dreamers dimension was created off of an alternate
split reality. Janus then was lost in that space of the momeny, creating an
alternate time doppelganger in a reality never his own. Because Janus in this
instance never went through the dimensional gateway, and did not ever become
Magus later on, he stays the same.

Thereofore Janus of Zeal, who at that moment of the Time Crash, was lost into
another being. Alfador on the other hand did not travel anywhere near the
present time, he instead got lost in the chaos. The other being washed up on
the shore in 1000 AD with no memory whatsoever of his origin, a "spawn" of
another lifeform. This being quickly became a traveling magician, called Guile
by the people of Termina. He did whacky fortunes, and told funny stories while
he collected his weight as a magician to take on an even larger stake: That of
discovering the truth which was hidden from him like a black veil. He learned
the trains of a magician, however, knew no such special spells, only little
magic tricks. He met up with Serge and CO who were off to defeat Lynx, and
needed something to pass the time. He went with them, never deciding to take
off his mask because he liked his enigma qualities, and when he reached the
Frozen Flame, he stumbled back. Unaware that such a power could have existed in
him, perhaps, but never will. He exclaims in the game if you have him in the
front of the party "I am not that ...No....It's not possible....I am not
that!!!" and indeed he is correct, he is not that. Guile is a ripoff time
doppelganger of Janus, he has no correlation to Magus whatsoever.  He only had
the appearance of that of Janus, not Magus, nor even knew what the Mystics
were. He was born, and bred, an idiot. After that event, he seeked to repay his
gambling debts, perhaps Sneff knew what his life was really like hmm??? Or
perhaps the mask he takes off in front of Kid which produces no reaction when
he loses his 'bet'. Guile always wished to be something he's not, something he
could never be.

At the same time Magus was in that moment traveling backwards across that plane
and in the Time Crash, spawned himself into another "lifeform". This life form
was simply known as Gilbert. One day Gilbert arrived in the form of a young
earnest side show traveler, who was quickly adopted by parents, met his
girlfriend, and became a great thief. He went on through his life to discover
he might hold untapped powers, ones that could shake the heavens. Or maybe he
just liked his life as a thief. He decided one day long ago that he would go on
an adventure, and with Serge and CO joined the Radical Dreamers to become a
part of this adventure and live it to the last day. But when they traveled into
Lynx's Manor, and he had grown attatched to his friends, he realized the truth
about his life. Something he could not ever attain, something he could not ever
be. He wished to be something more than a thief, who traveled and stole the
Frozen Flame. Perhaps the first thief to steal the Frozen Flame??? Or maybe the
last..?? Still, he dreamed of fighting the wars of chaos, and learning from his
shadow powers he inherited automatically from his real birthmother(who lies
across dimensions) decided to make his life the fullest it could possibly be.
He went on and wished to marry LuLu, the had several daughters, and in that
life, lived happily and as rich as can be. He could never ever say that he knew
what the strength of his abilities were, but he traveled the stars and cosmos,
running across mischief and adventure, where he styled his name after a rock
star, and became well known throughout for hunting space criminals. He never
knew the truth which birthed him, he never could accept that. He instead gave
his life into the card tricks which a thief will play, and learned And as a
wandering thief he was remembered by those who cared in the land.

Flash forward to 1020 AD> The Chrono Cross is used. All of a sudden every
dimension which existed outside of home ceases to exist, Guile, Magil, and all
incarnations of Serge, General Viper and every character are wiped completely
out. They were never born.
Just as in sliders if you were to look at one of the
dimensions where Quinn found out he discovered the theory of relativity. It
never happened, he isn't that smart, and that dimension after everything else
ceased completely.

Because of this one can not say that Mars Daio, the Old Woman, or any of them
were in fact real. As Kid learns, at the end of her story, she will never be a
thief again. And in that sense, she can not. After all, Magil, Serge, those
people are who made the game fun. As for the cat alfador, he does nothing but
follow Magus, who is at this moment, unaware of everyone, dwelling in the past
looking for Schala, and watching over her through the dimensional gateway he
travels. He knows nothing of the strange bygones, and may, as it were not ever
realize what truely happened. Yet in the same sense, his play in the role of
the events caused those with imagination to wonder, would Magus really come
back....??? The answer is Nay, not until the writers of the Chrono Sequel
decide to put him in. Though maybe everyone's favorite Mystic raised brat is
not present, the world goes on. And in that same sense, people in the games
like Glenn and Frog, are distanced by hundreds of years making it impossible
for them to even have the same blood line, much less exist in the same moment.
But those who will dream, may say some day the fateful Frog returns to his
human form, and comes back to the world to slay Lynx. There's nothing wrong
with a dream.

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2005, 09:46:31 am »
Oh geesh...ANOTHER Zelda Dude BS theory placed in the discussion section.

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2005, 12:22:45 pm »
That was total bullshot!

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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2005, 02:20:49 pm »
I don't even get it -_-

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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2005, 02:58:29 pm »
Zelda Dude is one of those many people who should be put down to prevent any offspring.

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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2005, 04:05:48 pm »
...

You know, it's just one of those moments you just want to tell that guy: "Just... stop... talking..."

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Re: Radical Dreamers explains it all Oo OMG!
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2005, 05:00:24 pm »
Quote from: Zaperking
Omg, I just found this whilst reading a RD FAQ at GameFAQs.. OMFG!!!! It's apparently from the Japanese translation or something.


Just a few points.

[list=1]
  • "Oo" or "OMG!" are not appropriate expressions to use in a topic title in the analysis section.
  • Zelda Dude's FAQ is not a reliable source of information.  He basically plagarized some Japanese website by running it through the Altavista translator and posting it without permission.
  • If this is intended to be a joke, don't post it in the analysis section.  Otherwise, include some sort of explanation instead of just posting a large quotation.[/list:o]

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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2005, 11:48:05 pm »
Well how was I suppose to know >.>
It said "THE TRUTH!" :'(

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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2005, 12:02:35 am »
Here's how you know if it's a crack pot theory. If it says by Zelda Dude

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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2005, 03:40:54 am »
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Here's how you know if it's a crack pot theory. If it says by Zelda Dude

There's a fine line between criticizing someone and slandering them. Let's try to keep it civil when the accused is not present to defend against your allegatins, lest you yourself become discredited as well.

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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2005, 10:42:56 am »
Thank you, Lord J. The flaming of this guy, though not entirely undeserved, is getting ridiculous.

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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2005, 11:35:29 am »
I wish i did not read that... I'm confused beyond comprehension... i'm still wondering why Magus would have so many douplegangers...

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2005, 12:37:36 pm »
I guess my anger management classes didn't help. I want my money back!

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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2005, 08:29:00 pm »
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I guess my anger management classes didn't help. I want my money back!

Nope, I'm keeping it. The fine print clearly said "No Refunds." =P

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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2005, 09:24:59 pm »
Grrrr, I get angry! I become hulk!