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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2005, 04:31:36 am »
Quote from: Dragoness & Chrono'99
all that small text crap


If you think about something stupid, don't bother using the tiny text. Just don't post it at all. I can understand a n00b making this mistake, but shame on you Chrono'99.

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I always thought (and still do) that CC's Glenn is just Square's way of showing: "See, there IS a Chrono Connection!" so they could keep you intrested. I mean, you see a green haired knight called Glenn, what would you think of first? That's what: "OMG! IS THAT FROG?!"


Maybe if CC's Glenn had green hair that'd make sense...

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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2005, 03:47:00 pm »
They just did that so you would at least know that there was a piece of Chrono Trigger in it. Connection sucked though.

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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2005, 05:01:25 pm »
Nightmare it doesn't really matter in my opinion if they were trying to connect the games through Glenn and failed...there are many other BETTER connections anyhoo.

About the Devas...I always assumed that Fargo had connections with some of the Devas due to him being a pirate and Viper's men looked like a good target. Considering Viper's a very wealthy man, after all.

And I'm glad somebody made a comment about the tiny text...it was getting a tad annoying.

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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2005, 06:10:07 pm »
About the names, I just find it ridiculously unlikely to share a soul and name with someone. Maybe one or the other, but not both. Unless the parents had clairovoyant powers, which isn't exactly common in Chronoverse.

Also, on what merit would you base a reincarnation? The two Glenns have little to nothing in common. They look nothing alike, they have different aspirations, and OH! Just thought about something. If Glenn of CT reincarnates into Glenn of CC, that means that he could've been reincarnated into someone on the Zenan mainland if there was no El Nido...meaning FATE failed at keeping the timeline the same. And...wow. I'll just let you guys carry on from there. I'm starting to get an idea for a fanfiction. Frog's lack of reincarnation=Fall of Guardia? :O XD

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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2005, 06:35:58 pm »
Sorry about the small font size text... and forgive me. *Hangs her head in shame*

I will not do that again... as much as I did here. >_>

(off topic... I think.)Now about the Devas, I am looking at what Karsh said about Viper.

Quote from: From Zeality's Full game script from GameFAQ.

Karsh:
   The general is the head of
   the Viper clan and has governed
   these islands for generations.

Karsh:
  But that's not all.
   When he was ordered to
   take up a new post
   on the main continent,
   he made quite an impact
   as the leader of the
   Acacia Dragoons and
   was promoted to general.


Karsh:
   He has retired from the
   army since then and currently
   serves as the lord of El Nido.


Hm,  It look like Viper could have been a Deva, and maybe Fargo took over after Viper got promoted to general.

Aura: ....Heh, I got say you are true about that.

Gah, I am bad at defending this theory... must get better.

Note to self: Next time I do a theory do a better job defending it and I really shoudn't have waste my time and everyone else time with this theory. >_<

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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2005, 06:56:38 pm »
The quote about Glenn being named a famous hero from the past literally doesn't exist. I organized the entire script of Chrono Cross and didn't see anything remotely like it. It's a Gamefags fabrication.

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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2005, 07:17:38 pm »
Alright! So that why I never saw it before. :P

It came from GameFAQ. :P

I guess.... if you wanna go from it in a story line way, Glenn(CC one)'s parents just like the name.

(I think the reason I am not doing a good job defending this theory might be that myself don't really think this is right. >_>)

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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2005, 03:31:52 am »
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Fargo was most likely a Diva, since he has connections with General Viper, Radius etc.


Of what era? The new generation belongs to Marcy, Zoah, Karsh, and Dario, wheras the old was Viper, Radius, Zappa, and Garai. There is no room there for him to be a Deva, unless he was temporary, or something to that effect (or, maybe, the postions of Deva are not limited to four.) I've always felt that, seeing as he's a pirate (or, at least the one that has a grievance with Viper), that's where the issue lies. Viper is Lord of El Nido, and as such the power and law of the waters there. Fargo is a pirate who works contrary to the law, and likely had run-ins with Viper's dragoons who attempted to stop his piracy, perhaps even with Viper himself in that regard. That is what I always thought his connection was, and whence the hatred stems.


Fargo may have had his run-ins with Viper due to him being a law-breaker, but their hate seems too personal. Maybe it had something to do with Zelbess' death, and Fargo somehow faulted Viper for it?

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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2005, 04:10:35 am »
Fargo seems to have ties with Luccia, and he knows that Marcy is in her care, and even Irenes knows about it.
Why would Fargo give Marcy to viper to become a Deva under Luccia is he hated Viper?
And then theres Nikki, Fargo's homosexual son Oo

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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2005, 05:33:50 pm »
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The quote about Glenn being named a famous hero from the past literally doesn't exist. I organized the entire script of Chrono Cross and didn't see anything remotely like it. It's a Gamefags fabrication.


What the...but...but I never based that on anything I'd heard at GameFAGs (wait a minute...that's an entirely DIFFERENT site...>_>)...I-I saw that myself during gameplay...

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« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2005, 05:40:35 pm »
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Fargo seems to have ties with Luccia, and he knows that Marcy is in her care, and even Irenes knows about it.
Why would Fargo give Marcy to viper to become a Deva under Luccia is he hated Viper?
And then theres Nikki, Fargo's homosexual son Oo


Wait...there's in-game evidence that Fargo has connections with Luccia? I missed that then...

Fargo is Nikki + Marcy's father!? Where was that mentioned?

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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2005, 06:13:06 pm »
Well, you learned that Fargo is Nikki's father by doing the Song of Marbule quest. ...At least starting it. >_>....From what I remember.

And... if you have Nikki in your group when you first meet Marcy, Nikki will make a comment that she look like his mother and that there is no doubt that she is his sister.(If you want me to.. I will post the script. :P)

As for Luccia... I think I have to scan the script.

For I didn't notice it either. :P

Found it! ....at least a bit of it. >_>

Quote from: Part of Zeality's Full Game Script from GameFAQs.com.
Irenes:
   Luccia...
   Pleäse look äfter Marcy.

Luccia:
   Of course...
   But vot dat child really
   needs is a loving family.
   I cannot provide dat...
   
Irenes:
   Marcy...
   
Irenes:
   Could yoü be, Marcy...?
   Yoü look very much like
   yöur mötter...Zelbess...

Marcy:
   You knew my mom...?

Irenes:
   Jä, I knew her very well.
   She was a fine person...
   I knöw, för I am her sister.
   Marcy, yoü should be very
   pröud of your mötter...

Marcy:
   ......

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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2005, 06:43:54 pm »
Yes, I remember Nikki + Marcy being related (my first playthrough I went the Nikki-Korcha path), but as I haven't been able to see the Song of Marbule quest in either of my playthroughs, that information hasn't been relayed to me. That is interesting...

P.S. For the love of god, chill with the " :P " smilies. They're grating on my nerves >_>.

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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2005, 07:03:41 pm »
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Yes, I remember Nikki + Marcy being related (my first playthrough I went the Nikki-Korcha path), but as I haven't been able to see the Song of Marbule quest in either of my playthroughs, that information hasn't been relayed to me. That is interesting...

P.S. For the love of god, chill with the " :P " smilies. They're grating on my nerves >_>.


Aye, it is.

....I didn't even know their were related.... until, I noticed it in the script. *Wonder if she should sweat drop at herself*

(What? I went with Pierre's path.)

P.S I will stop using the ' :P ' smiles so much.

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« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2005, 04:00:15 am »
Fargo didn't entrust Marcy to Luccia, he thought she died in birth along with Zelbess, and I guess Luccia was present in the birth and took her on Zelbess' request.