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Alfador

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« on: September 27, 2005, 09:37:01 pm »
Allow to be introduce myself. I am Alfador.
I am what you call a lurker. I lurk, and that
is why I have not been seen until now.

I would like this to be settled once and for all:
Zelda Dude's FAQ. What the hell is the deal with
all you Chrono theorists and this guy's ideas?
No, really. Excuse me as I plug my ears as the inevitable
 comments come of how he translated the text of Radical
Dreamers through BabelFish or some such engine, I am
quite sick of them. I have read so many theories over the
years, come up with so many of my own, and yet not
once have I found anyone to debunk this man's
supposed "crackpot" ideas about the connections
between Radical Dreamers, Chrono Trigger and Chrono
Cross. I tend to be quite fond of his ideas, myself, as he
is seemingly the only person to ever successfully connect
Radical Dreamers to either of the two games. Everyone
else seems content to just label it as "Chrono Cross 0.5",
and leave it alone.

Is there any real reason for so much slander of his name?
I've seen people bash him, who, themselves, contribute
 nothing to this little "scene" of Chrono theorists,
but rather just sit on their arses commenting on what they
"think" is true and not true, never once doing any research
 them selves. It's disgusting, and I'm sick of it. Right here,
 right now, if anyone really considers themselves a true theorists,
and a reasonable, thinking man or woman, I challenge you
to crack this man's theory. Go on right ahead, and don't tell
me that his FAQ was obviously wrong, or that he was
incredibly misinformed. And mods, please don't lock this
topic just because you don't think it will get anywhere.

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/snes/file/radical_dreamers_story.txt

Let's just reasonably dissect his views, and without
petty commentary with regards to his primitive storyline
translation.

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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2005, 09:45:41 pm »
Maybe you should read his crackpot Masamune theory and then get back to me.

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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2005, 09:50:57 pm »
Well, if you read the manifold treatises on time that exist on the Compendium, the fashion in which the RD world connects with that of CC and CT is generally thought to be that of an alternate dimension. After all, it is stated in CC, so it must in some fashion exist. But the majority opinion is that it is simply another time-line apart from the two of Chrono Cross. So here, at least, the connections between the games have been almost fully explained.

As far as Zelda Dude goes, I have personally never read his theories in more than passing, though I do think his name has become rather infamous. If what I've heard is true, he does not follow logical analytical rules in arguing, but rather puts together theories without more than trace back-up. The other problem, I think - and I may be wrong on this, but I seem to remember reading this somewhere - is that Zelda Dude was actually trying to be silly, and not seriously meaning these things that he said.

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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2005, 10:17:57 pm »
I have to agree with Nightmare. If you are indeed fond of his ideas, please take a look at his Masemune theory. Can you honestly defend that one reasonably?

And Daniel makes a point...I think, in all honesty, that half of what he writes is stuff he makes up for a chuckle or so (Although, he does put a certain effort into it, which sort of nullifies this point.) I do agree with you to a certain extent...it's getting tiring reading everybody's reactions, which from what I've seen over the 'net are attacking his intelligence, manhood etc. It's getting a bit ridiculous...

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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2005, 10:29:08 pm »
Remember my Schala-Marle theory? I actually tried to make that sound true and totally bullshot at the same time.

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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2005, 10:39:03 pm »
Well, Mr. Zelda Dude's theories seem not to fit the story at all.

Since when did.. Frog want to kill Lynx? and the theory on the Masamune seem.... very weird.

And... >_>

I am sorry if I ever attacked him.

..........Hope I didn't contradict myself. >_>

.....I think my theory about Glennes..... might make some sense. >_>


edit: I wonder why.... He thought Cyrus was Frog's father? ...Really?

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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2005, 10:54:19 pm »
Here is the god awful Masamune Theory

READ IT!

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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2005, 10:56:27 pm »
I debunked it all once on some game board. But that's because they're beneath debunking; they almost don't even deserve a proper approach. Something like the Dead Sea FAQ, written in popular English and at least trying to support its claims, is debatable. "Janus splits in half into 2 people" isn't, especially, when one of the foundations of his theory is a cutscene that doesn't exist.

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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2005, 11:47:54 pm »
Nightmare975: .............damn. He really wrote that?
I read the whole thing through to be fair, but it only
really made sense up to where he started making things
up, such as Cyrus' brother going on a murderous rampage.


ZeaLitY: What cutscene?

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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2005, 11:57:32 pm »
Quote from: Alfador
He really wrote that?


Sadly, yes. Why do you think we find his theories dumb? That's why.

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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2005, 05:15:58 pm »
"Janus goes in to a portal and Alfadr follows!!!"

That one.

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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2005, 07:49:06 pm »
Uh. What?

We don't pass Dreamers off as "Chrono Cross 0.5".

We treat it as an alternate dimension, which is what it is.

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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2005, 02:48:14 am »
I just ignore Zelda Dude, it makes life oh so easier. |:

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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2005, 02:51:22 am »
Why is this in Characters, Plots...? o_0
I dont personally know ZeldaDude. i havent seen him, heard him, felt him, smelt him or tasted him. But i hate him

we should invite him to the forums, and show hil the true way of the chrono

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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2005, 03:51:22 am »
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we should invite him to the forums


You should be banned just for saying that. |: