Moon Discrepancy

[Zenning]

Some theories state that she may in fact be another clone of Schala. (Not my theory.)

As far as we can guess, Harle and Kid may be alternate versions of each other; Kid is from one of the Human timelines, and Harle is from a Reptite timeline.

If you take their basic facial anatomy, and the fact that their fortunes are the same when given by the fortune teller in Another Termina, I don't think it's that improbable.

Belthasar at one point in Chrono Cross tells us that Home World had only one moon, while Another World has two moons (we see those two moons only in cinematic scenes with night sky backdrops in Another World; see: Viper Manor and Terra Tower cinema scenes).

A quick search of the Chrono Cross script reveals that Belthasar only mentions the moon once.

Belthasar:
   There were six Dragons
   you knew of and one more
   hidden Dragon you didn't...
   Like the second moon
   that once was lost,
   but later was found...
   Although the same planet,
   my world didn't have two
   moons!

He is referring to the fact that there was only one moon in the original timeline, such as during the events of Chrono Trigger.  In the new timeline caused by the Time Crash, there are two moons.  The extra moon is also visible in both Home and Another after the Dimensional Split.

That is PRECISELY the quote I was talking about! So, where did that second moon come from?

[nightmare975]

If you take their basic facial anatomy, and the fact that their fortunes are the same when given by the fortune teller in Another Termina, I don't think it's that improbable.

Where did you find that? I have been looking for that exact statment!

[Zaperking]

Kid and Harle can't be alternatives from different dimension. Schala doesn't exist in the repitite dimension, besides the fact that she is HUMAN! Kid is created in around 1004-6 AD, whilst Dinopolis and the Dragon God appeared in 7600BC, so they had like 8000 years of time on Earth, in which case they can't be alternatives. Besides the point that Harle was created in 1006, possibly she does look like Kid because Kid and Harle may have been sent out at the same time.

Hey, why don't we see Harle anyway when the dragons merge?

We do... not in the cutscene though.  Remember she's in Chronopolis and steals the flame?  After the dragon god is merged, he shoots that "beam" and calls her up.  That's when she merged.

Ahh... I don't remember Harle stealing the flame. I thought she warned Kid not to touch it, and Kid did and then the whole princess thing flooded back into her mind, and she was trapped so Serge had to save her during that fire scene or something.

I thought thatt he flame only followed the dragons up to Terra Tower. And I never saw that beam take Harle away... Poor Harle. I luv her.

And on the Harle/Serge/Lynx thing. She's creepy. She's like "Even if you're Serge, you are Lynx because you're in his body, and I like Lynx's body so you shall be Lynx" lol.

I'm doing my second play through, I need to get the dragon relics now. Poor Harle. She's one of the 5 main characters. Serge, Kid, Lynx, Harle, Starky (Maybe, cuz you need him).

[Zenning]

Harle flies into the sphere holding the Frozen Flame, before flying up through the opening in the roof of the tower, thus signifying that she stole it. I just played through this scene yesterday, so it's still fresh in my mind.

[Zaperking]

No one likes Skelly lol..

Anyway, What do you mean the second red moon? There was only ever the big yellow moon. And the red moon only appeared during Harle's creation, for she is the representation of it.

[Zenning]

Anyway, What do you mean the second red moon? There was only ever the big yellow moon. And the red moon only appeared during Harle's creation, for she is the representation of it.

Yes, that is exactly what I'm talking about.

Originally, there was only the one moon; white, silver, yellow, blue, whatever.

And then, the red moon eventually came along.

What do you mean by the creation of Harle?

How was Harle created?

...

Harle was nothing more than a human interface of the Dragon God, much like Lynx was the human interface of FATE.

How could Harle's creation or presence also create another moon?

Does that red moon disappear after we defeat the Dragon God?

[AuraTwilight]

The Red moon was caused by the Time Crash, I think, but as for Harle's creation, the Dragons created her during the time Serge was brought to the Frozen Flame as a baby. It was the one moment where their seal was disabled, so they created a seventh dragon without a seal on it.

[Dragoness]

Anyway, What do you mean the second red moon? There was only ever the big yellow moon. And the red moon only appeared during Harle's creation, for she is the representation of it.

Yes, that is exactly what I'm talking about.

Originally, there was only the one moon; white, silver, yellow, blue, whatever.

And then, the red moon eventually came along.

What do you mean by the creation of Harle?

How was Harle created?

...

Harle was nothing more than a human interface of the Dragon God, much like Lynx was the human interface of FATE.

How could Harle's creation or presence also create another moon?

Does that red moon disappear after we defeat the Dragon God?

I think so.

.......Darn wish I didn't just start over with Chrono Cross or I could check.  Bah.

(....Geez, I didn't help much did I?)

[Zaperking]

Aura, why would a red moon, smaller than the original moon, appear?

I always thought that that moon was of the Dark Moon Dragon, in other words, Harle.

In the FMV, Harle pretty much jumps out, right next to the moon. Like Belthasar said, 5 stars and a moon represented the original Dragon Gods once they split. And till Harle was created, that moon came into being.

And didn't someone else say that that moon was the TD's or Harles anyway aswell?

And also, if you do notice Harle's techs, it'd be logical to think that the moon is her preresintation, since she uses it for every tech, especially Lunarteric.

[Chrono'99]

Aura, why would a red moon, smaller than the original moon, appear?

I always thought that that moon was of the Dark Moon Dragon, in other words, Harle.

In the FMV, Harle pretty much jumps out, right next to the moon. Like Belthasar said, 5 stars and a moon represented the original Dragon Gods once they split. And till Harle was created, that moon came into being.

And didn't someone else say that that moon was the TD's or Harles anyway aswell?

And also, if you do notice Harle's techs, it'd be logical to think that the moon is her preresintation, since she uses it for every tech, especially Lunarteric.

It's obviously symbolic. The red moon isn't a dragon. The 5 other stars existed in Chrono Trigger and there was no dragon at all in that game.

[Zaperking]

That's why I said they were representations. Wether the 6 original dragon gods too those 5 stars and the other moon as their own representations (possible needed to exist outside of the TD), I've always thought as the red moon having something to do with Harle.

[Dragoness]

Belthasar:
   There were six Dragons
   you knew of and one more
   hidden Dragon you didn't...
   Like the second moon
   that once was lost,
   but later was found...
   Although the same planet,
   my world didn't have two
   moons!
  Look up at the night sky
   now and you will see seven
   celestial bodies...
   Five stars and two moons...
   Five brother stars that
   correspond to the five
   colored Dragons, ruling like
   gods over the night skies...
   One moon that corresponds
   to the white Sky Dragon...
   And another darker, daughter
   moon to counterbalance them.
 
Belthasar:
   The Fire Dragon,
   the Water Dragon,
   the Green Dragon,
   the Earth Dragon,
   the Black Dragon,
   the Sky Dragon,
   and one more...
   The final Dragon...
   The dark moon Dragon...
   The one who was to work to
   free the other Dragons from
   their bondage by the FATE
   computer...
   The child the others created on
   the night of the electric storm
   that temporarily caused FATE
   to loosen its hold on them...

Belthasar:
  I believe you
   knew her as...
   Harle.

*point the bold*

Would that help, Zaperking?

.....I begining to think I am just really good at hunt down things from the script.

...Oh well.

[Zaperking]

Yes, That definately helps, Thansk Dragoness

She's the "Final Dragon" Omg. That makes her sound so powerful. So I was right to believe that she was of the dark moon

[AuraTwilight]

Just because the Dark Moon represents her doesn't mean that her presence created it. That's ridiculous. If the Dark Moon wasn't there at her birth she'd probably be represented by another star. People in El Nido has always seen the Dark Moon in the sky, and El Nido is a lot older than eightteen years. The Dark Moon exists via the Time Crash.

[Dragoness]

You are welcome.

.....Bah, I wish we have more to things that can tells us true how in the heck that  moon got there...o.o