Did crono die when porre attacked

[DeweyisOverrated]

I've always understood it as the "descendants" of Chronopolis, as most of the people of El Nido are.

[Zaperking]

People of Termina are the decendants of Porrean settlement. Arni is the decendants of Chronopolis. Though, there would be some decendants of Chronopolis mixed with the Porreans at Termina. A few soldiers probably want some fun with the local women xD

[GrayLensman]

no he hadnt died in 1000 something AD, but you would expect him to be dead around 2300AD, or whenver the dead sea is based.

You missing the point.  Miguel had not died.  Yet you still see the Crono-ghost.  Crono cannot have a ghost until he dies, and he has not died, since hes Miguel.

Miguel is FROZEN in time in the Dead Sea.  There is no future version of him to be Crono's ghost.

[kazmaka]

Crono and Miguel have nothing in common anyway. It's ridiculous that this debate got that far. What would a king (if you saw the ending to the PSX version of CT) be doing on some foreign island having children with another woman?

okay to much to quote, since when was i saying crono was having children with another woman?

So, Crono living 1,300 years isn't relevant, as all you would have to do is step into the area. Keep in mind, Miguel is also from the 1,000 A.D. era, and he wouldn'y have lived that long either.

i think you missed the point, unless your assuming the ghost of crono went into the dead sea from 1000AD, which im not, im saying the ghost of crono is from the 2300AD era where he was dead.

There's a simple way to fix this. After Lynx leaves, Miguel says: "My dear Leena... May you live in an happier tommorow." Crono has nothing to do with Leena. And if you connect the facts that Marge said that Wazuki and Leena's father went to Chronopolis, you see Miguel with Wazuki in Chronopolis, and he says the Leena bit after death, it's safe to say Miguel is just Leena's father, Wazuki's best friend, and has nothing to with the hero of time, Crono.

im intrigued how you used that evidence to make that assumption.

Who knows, maybe he left his hot, powerful hero of time wife and went to get some hot El-Nido action? {: I mean, being a King is NOTHING when compared to being a fishermen.

i never assumed he left marle, and im sure marle would of rather been a fisherman than a queen, she says it in trigger.

Anyone who believes this theory says that they are in hiding, probably due to the military actions of Porre. I don't buy it, personally. Some people go as far to say that Marle is actually Leena, which is... really radical. Once again, I don't buy it.

no way would i buy leena being marle, there no where near the right age, leena is about 17, which is about what marle was in trigger.
and quite frankly i dont buy that crono and marle would have died the porre invasion, maybe they got in there at first, but once it became apparant they may loose and marle could be in danger theres no chance in hell he would stay there and risk marle dying.

Miguel is FROZEN in time in the Dead Sea. There is no future version of him to be Crono's ghost.

miguel gets killed in the dead sea, and im pretty sure it had to happen because of FATE.

[V_Translanka]

miguel gets killed in the dead sea, and im pretty sure it had to happen because of FATE.

Miguel doesn't die until Serge & Co. kill him there though...

[kazmaka]

yeah... but he dies, so he would be dead in the future where the dead sea came from but got pulled back from.

[Legend of the Past]

[Marge]
   That night, your father, Wazuki,
   and his friend Miguel set out
   to sea, despite a storm...
   It was an emergency...

There. Marge says Wazuki and his friend Miguel set out to Chronopolis. In the flashback you see Wazuki and Miguel quiet clearly in the sea.

  And your father's friend, Miguel...
   That was Leena's father.

There's the evidence Miguel is Leena's father.

And finally...

Miguel:
   My dear Leena...
   May you live in a
   happier tomorrow!

Now, if you're still wandering how I came to the conclusion you need to have your head examined. Crono has nothing to do with Leena. Besides, Miguel neither looks, talks or uses the same weapon as Crono. He uses no magic, except for Elements and his "Holy Dragon Sword" tech, which is Dragonoian in origin, obviously, therefore it can't be magic. Again I say, the mere prospect that Miguel is Crono is neither logical nor possible. The game makes no statment that he is Miguel. Besides, answer that:

WHY THE HELL WOULD MARLE WANT TO CRUSH CRONO TO BITS?!

[kazmaka]

[Marge]
   That night, your father, Wazuki,
   and his friend Miguel set out
   to sea, despite a storm...
   It was an emergency...

There. Marge says Wazuki and his friend Miguel set out to Chronopolis. In the flashback you see Wazuki and Miguel quiet clearly in the sea.

  And your father's friend, Miguel...
   That was Leena's father.

There's the evidence Miguel is Leena's father.

And finally...

Miguel:
   My dear Leena...
   May you live in a
   happier tomorrow!

Now, if you're still wandering how I came to the conclusion you need to have your head examined. Crono has nothing to do with Leena. Besides, Miguel neither looks, talks or uses the same weapon as Crono. He uses no magic, except for Elements and his "Holy Dragon Sword" tech, which is Dragonoian in origin, obviously, therefore it can't be magic. Again I say, the mere prospect that Miguel is Crono is neither logical nor possible. The game makes no statment that he is Miguel. Besides, answer that:

WHY THE HELL WOULD MARLE WANT TO CRUSH CRONO TO BITS?!

i know leena is miguels daughter, how do you know crono has nothing to do with leena?

1) miguel doesnt look like crono - why not? for starters find a picture of crono in the exact same style as CC, then add 10 years or so.
2) miguel doesnt talk like crono - since when did crono ever say anything?
3) or uses the same weapon - what makes you think he would bring his swords on this trip with wazuki, i would hardly think they expected to get into a fight out there.
4) he doesnt use magic - how do we know crono kept his magic?
5) why would marle say that - i already answered that

[Legend of the Past]

[Marge]
   That night, your father, Wazuki,
   and his friend Miguel set out
   to sea, despite a storm...
   It was an emergency...

There. Marge says Wazuki and his friend Miguel set out to Chronopolis. In the flashback you see Wazuki and Miguel quiet clearly in the sea.

  And your father's friend, Miguel...
   That was Leena's father.

There's the evidence Miguel is Leena's father.

And finally...

Miguel:
   My dear Leena...
   May you live in a
   happier tomorrow!

Now, if you're still wandering how I came to the conclusion you need to have your head examined. Crono has nothing to do with Leena. Besides, Miguel neither looks, talks or uses the same weapon as Crono. He uses no magic, except for Elements and his "Holy Dragon Sword" tech, which is Dragonoian in origin, obviously, therefore it can't be magic. Again I say, the mere prospect that Miguel is Crono is neither logical nor possible. The game makes no statment that he is Miguel. Besides, answer that:

WHY THE HELL WOULD MARLE WANT TO CRUSH CRONO TO BITS?!

i know leena is miguels daughter, how do you know crono has nothing to do with leena?

1) miguel doesnt look like crono - why not? for starters find a picture of crono in the exact same style as CC, then add 10 years or so.
2) miguel doesnt talk like crono - since when did crono ever say anything?
3) or uses the same weapon - what makes you think he would bring his swords on this trip with wazuki, i would hardly think they expected to get into a fight out there.
4) he doesnt use magic - how do we know crono kept his magic?
5) why would marle say that - i already answered that

~Sigh~ I've never met someone more stubborn and stuck up in my life.

Everyone who thinks this theory of kamakaza is a crackpot theory say Aye.

[V_Translanka]

aye and a half...but that's beside the point...

1) miguel doesnt look like crono - why not? for starters find a picture of crono in the exact same style as CC, then add 10 years or so.

It would be 20 years...so Crono would be over 30...

2) miguel doesnt talk like crono - since when did crono ever say anything?

Uhm, exactly?

3) or uses the same weapon - what makes you think he would bring his swords on this trip with wazuki, i would hardly think they expected to get into a fight out there.

4) he doesnt use magic - how do we know crono kept his magic?

5) why would marle say that - i already answered that

So, basically, with all the evidence given...Miguel is Miguel...but according to kazmaka he could be nearly anybody...How do you KNOW it's not Magus? He could have died his hair...lost his magic...got there somehow...did some stuff...become a power ranger...traveled back in time...faught a dinosaur...revealed Superman's secret identity...etc etc...

The simplest answer is often the right one. Why overcomplicate things by trying to make it Crono when there's no substantial evidence supporting such an absurd claim? What even hints that Miguel might be Crono? His Elemental Innate? What? Nothing, that's what.

[kazmaka]

suit ureself, i still think he could be.

[Sentenal]

Aye times 100.  He is actually funny, as long as you don't take him serious.

1) miguel doesnt look like crono - why not? for starters find a picture of crono in the exact same style as CC, then add 10 years or so.
2) miguel doesnt talk like crono - since when did crono ever say anything?
3) or uses the same weapon - what makes you think he would bring his swords on this trip with wazuki, i would hardly think they expected to get into a fight out there.
4) he doesnt use magic - how do we know crono kept his magic?
5) why would marle say that - i already answered that

1.) Okay, I gots a theory!  Goku looks sorta like Crono!  So Crono died his hair black, and traveled to another world, and renamed himself Goku, and this is true because THEY LOOK ALIKE, IT COULND'T POSSIBLY BE BECAUSE MANY AKIRA CHARACTERS LOOK ALIKE.
2.) Exactly, Crono hardly ever said anything, yet Miguel said alot.
3.) Why wouldn't he?  Its not like it would be a big load.  A simple Katana is a small weapon.
4.) Still going on with people magically getting stripped of their magical power, for no reason at all, even after we have proved you cannot have your magic taken away.  While it is possible that he could have forgotten how to use some of it, but forget ALL of it?
5.) Actually, when you answered it, you said that when people love each other, they want to smash each other to bits.

[kazmaka]

erm... yeh goku is crono... okay.

crono never says anything, because the makers dont make him say anything, to make crono your character, with no personality except that you give him, miguel does say stuff because he is not your main character, it would look really stupid having your characters talking to miguel and yet him saying nothing.
when did you prove you cant loose your magic?
if you dont understand what i said, fine.

[Sentenal]

I proved that Magic isn't something given, its something learned, its something that everyone-post Zeal has evolved.

Its like talking to a rock...

[kazmaka]

i never said magic wasnt given, you said spekkio unlocked their magic, and proved that he taught them magic, which is what i already thought.