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« Reply #180 on: August 11, 2005, 12:12:44 pm »
How is Shadow the most powerful? Isn't it part of the balance that Spekkio manages?

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« Reply #181 on: August 11, 2005, 12:23:00 pm »
I know. Shadow isn't more powerful. From what I gathered, Dark Matter isn't  much more powerful then Luminaire. It's part of a balance, it's like saying that fire, water and lightning are all evil, and when combined they create darkness. Besides, if lightning is Heaven, how can anything with HEAVEN in it can make something DARK?

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« Reply #182 on: August 11, 2005, 01:55:41 pm »
People might think shadow is "the most powerful" only because it utilizes all of the other three elements.  So, theoretically, you can use any spell anyone else can.

Kind of like what Senator Palpatine says in Episode III "A true jedi learns all aspects of the force".  Something to that nature.[/u]

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« Reply #183 on: August 11, 2005, 02:32:35 pm »
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People might think shadow is "the most powerful" only because it utilizes all of the other three elements


Says friggin who? No one in the game, that's for sure.

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« Reply #184 on: August 11, 2005, 02:45:20 pm »
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People might think shadow is "the most powerful" only because it utilizes all of the other three elements


Says friggin who? No one in the game, that's for sure.

He's probably referring to the fact that Marle and Lucca have to combine their Water and Fire magics in order to produce a Shadow spell (Antipode), while Magus for instance can cast Shadow stuff by himself.

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« Reply #185 on: August 11, 2005, 02:47:24 pm »
How do you know Antipode is Shadow? Where does it say that?

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« Reply #186 on: August 11, 2005, 02:49:42 pm »
The general effect of it is Shadow. Try using it on undead enemies and such.

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« Reply #187 on: August 11, 2005, 02:50:55 pm »
Oh, well. So it's Fire and Water. But it has nothing to do with Thunder.

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« Reply #188 on: August 11, 2005, 02:52:45 pm »
That, and also the fact that Magus can use the rest of the elements individually.

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« Reply #189 on: August 11, 2005, 02:54:20 pm »
I'm not sure but I think even Delta Force and Delta Storm (Fire+Water+Lightning) are Shadow spells... Three characters have to combine their force to produce Shadow, that does show how powerful that element must be.

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« Reply #190 on: August 11, 2005, 02:56:08 pm »
I think it's more like Shadow+Lightning, which means Good+Evil. Which explains how powerful it is.

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« Reply #191 on: August 11, 2005, 03:05:09 pm »
According to the Mechanics Guide on GameFAQs it's Shadow only.

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« Reply #192 on: August 11, 2005, 04:19:32 pm »
Maybe it coverts the Lightning into Shadow? Obviously, Fire and Water are all that is needed to create Shadow.

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« Reply #193 on: August 11, 2005, 04:35:49 pm »
The way I see it, Magus is a sorceror, so of course he can use all types of magic. Shadow is of course his innate, is all.

The way I see it, the whole balance of Water, Fire, Lightning, and Shadow is symbolic. Fire and Water are opposites of a physical existence, and Lightning and Shadow can be interpretted as opposites of a spiritual existence (Heaven and Shadow.) And it continues the parallel, physical versus spiritual. This keeps folding out infinitely to all concepts of the universe. True Tao. Balance. But it's not so clearcut. You say Antipode, a Shadow spell, is made with Fire and Water? Ha. I present two reason. One, they're opposites, so they negate each other and create Shadow, Void, where Heaven would represent existence, or atleast the cause of it. Reason Two would be continuing the Tao analogy, as even opposites contain traces of their counterparts, as they can never be truly seperated. Nothing is fully good or evil. Right or Wrong. Black or White. The physical elements of Fire and Water cannot escape the spiritual Shadow.

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« Reply #194 on: August 11, 2005, 04:45:34 pm »
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The way I see it, Magus is a sorceror, so of course he can use all types of magic. Shadow is of course his innate, is all.


That's what I said. ^_^

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