Poll

How much credit do you give "the Entitiy"

Total credit for all actions in the chrono story
4 (12.1%)
Partial Role(some things effected by entity but not all)
19 (57.6%)
Little Role(only one or two things effected by the entity)
7 (21.2%)
No Role(just a spur of the moment theory/dialog filler)
3 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 33

Voting closed: October 09, 2005, 09:25:43 pm

Author Topic: The Entity's Role  (Read 8297 times)

SilentMartyr

  • Magical Dreamer (+1250)
  • *
  • Posts: 1373
    • View Profile
    • http://www.chronotrigger.info
The Entity's Role
« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2005, 03:47:02 pm »
Quote from: Zaperking
Yeah, but if Marle ever came back to be princess or something, he'd still probably make up that cock and bull story about the King not being there when her mother died etc, and she'd never come back because the events of the rainbow shell wouldn't bring her and her father back together.


But Marle would have never ran off for the amount of time that she was gone for. She would have just continued to randomly sneak out whenever she felt the need to escape the castles shinanigans.

Philosopher1701

  • Guardian (+100)
  • *
  • Posts: 120
    • View Profile
The Entity's Role
« Reply #46 on: October 21, 2005, 11:25:08 pm »
Could someone provide me with one good reason stating why the Entity wasn't in complete control of every event?

Mystik3eb

  • Dimension Crosser (+1000)
  • *
  • Posts: 1022
    • View Profile
    • http://www.geocities.com/dfscanl/index.html
The Entity's Role
« Reply #47 on: October 21, 2005, 11:31:07 pm »
Because you, the player, told Crono where to move to, how fast, and who to talk to, etc. And we've already discussed how the Entity is not the player.

Zaperking

  • Radical Dreamer (+2000)
  • *
  • Posts: 2210
    • View Profile
The Entity's Role
« Reply #48 on: October 22, 2005, 01:53:02 am »
Also, from the same conversation that first even gave thought to the "entity", it looks more like it was dying, and while it was looking back on everything, it caused time gates to appear for us, or atleast reactions that may have never happned to happen, but not complete control. You'd think that something like the planet who can bring in another city from another unknown dimension could jut send Lavos away.... BUT NO! That's why I think that there's an entity that may want the planet to dream this up so that it can save itself. It wouldn't make sence if it didn't destroy Lavos all by itself, then later hate humans etc.

AuraTwilight

  • Errare Explorer (+1500)
  • *
  • Posts: 1524
    • View Profile
The Entity's Role
« Reply #49 on: October 22, 2005, 02:04:01 pm »
Quote
You'd think that something like the planet who can bring in another city from another unknown dimension could jut send Lavos away.... BUT NO!


since Lavos isn't a part of the Planet's natural order, the Planet shouldn't have control over it. What makes you think Earth is the only planet with a sentient consciousness? Lavos probably evolved to resist and fight Mother Earth.

Lin_Zhen_Quan

  • Earthbound (+15)
  • *
  • Posts: 30
    • View Profile
    • http://www.happydragon.tk
The Entity's Role
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2006, 12:41:32 am »
i think the planet had only little to do with the events of the chrono series. Aren't most of the plannings and setups done by FATE or balthasar?

Zaperking

  • Radical Dreamer (+2000)
  • *
  • Posts: 2210
    • View Profile
The Entity's Role
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2006, 07:15:32 am »
Quote from: Lin_Zhen_Quan
i think the planet had only little to do with the events of the chrono series. Aren't most of the plannings and setups done by FATE or balthasar?

Not in the original timeline..

Tonjevic

  • Chronopolitan (+300)
  • *
  • Posts: 328
    • View Profile
The Entity's Role
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2006, 10:03:24 am »
This whole concept of an 'original timeline' is stupid. There IS no such thing as an 'original timeline' because after something has been done in the timeline to affect it in the future, time has changed, universes have split off, but there is no *original timeline* that continues flowing in a preset movement below all that. You change it, and for all the people in that relative timeline have just known that as the only way events played out, or indeed, would have played out. The myriad possible events that happen every moment all coalecse into seperate universes. How can you label ANY of them as the *original timeline*?
We really should debunk this flawed theory, if we hope to maintain the integrity of the Chrono universe, and at least be a little more respected as scientifically accurate within the gaming community. (The chrono one at least).

AuraTwilight

  • Errare Explorer (+1500)
  • *
  • Posts: 1524
    • View Profile
The Entity's Role
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2006, 01:56:53 pm »
There's only one event we know of that involves split timelines, and it's written off by time-space experts in the series as an ANOMALY. When time is changed, the old timeline is simply discarded in a primordial soup. We call the timeline where Crono and co. don't interfere whatsoever as the original timeline because that's as far back as we can go.

ChronoMagus

  • Chronopolitan (+300)
  • *
  • Posts: 349
    • View Profile
The Entity's Role
« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2006, 10:02:37 pm »
Well thats the problem... for all we know there may have been timelines where the Entity did control the timeline fully, yet somehow Lavos disrupted that completely and the Planet was forced to have only a limited significane.  Much of it is a war between the influencing timelines.
Timeline A is the timeline where the Planet is undisturbed and has total control.
Timeline B is the timeline where Lavos gets his will totally, nothing interferes.
A and B battle for control.
Timeline Original is where finally B overcomes A, while Timeline Crono and Co. is when A manages to overcome B.
In the end of CT Timeline Crono and Co. is the final timeline, and replaces all the others.

SilentMartyr

  • Magical Dreamer (+1250)
  • *
  • Posts: 1373
    • View Profile
    • http://www.chronotrigger.info
The Entity's Role
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2006, 02:44:47 pm »
That makes no sense unless you disregard most of the time theories that have been established here.