Better Games

[Burning Zeppelin]

Me and my friend having a fight on which games are better:
Ninja Gaiden vs Metroid Prime (2)
Ninja Gaiden vs RE4
Halo (2) vs RE4
Halo (2) vs MP (2)
Zelda OoT vs Chrono Cross
Chrono series vs MGS series
The major is Halo vs Metroid, but i bet the Chrono hit home =P We can accept the better atristry for Metroid, and the online for Halo, but he argues, as well as other Ninty fans that Metroid has better story! I havent played Metroid, but this seems quite absurd by what his story summary was

Sorry bout this thread, it will be locked soon, but, meh

And dont give me that different genre crap

[Mystik3eb]

Ok, thus begins my spiel on Metroid.

I never liked the old Metroids. I'd played them all and hadn't thought twice about them: they were boring and too non-linear for me. Bleh.

Then I heard Metroid Prime on the Gamecube was gonna be a FPS. Great. I hate FPSs, lol. I saw the graphics...very impressive...but it'll still have to prove itself for me to like it.

One day at my new high school I gained a friend (we became friends by discovering our similar deep obsession with Final Fantasys, Chronos, Robert Jordan and the like) who invited me to go to his house. He had just got Metroid Prime and said it was awesome. He let me start a game.

....oh. My. God. You can scan things around you to find out about them, even log things like Lore (essentially storyline additions), enemy info and other stuff into a permanent database? My GOD, LOOK at those insane graphics! Wow, these controls are easy...this game is SO much fun! WHOA! The view zooms out when she becomes a ball...these are the best in-game graphics I've ever seen! Holy shit, this game is AWESOME!

And I hadn't even left the colony ship yet.

And my good feelings toward the game only increased. This truly is different from other FPSs, and has been labeled not an FPS, but an FPA (First-Person Adventure), which is very accurate. This is not blind mindless shooting at the baddies until they're all gone and whatnot. This is an actual Metroid game, taken with all its qualities, with a scan system thrown in (which is possibly my favorite part of the whole thing), amazing graphics, perfect fitting music, and an incredibly fun gameplay that gives it more replay value than anything without a 'Chrono' in its name. I know few people that dislike Metroid Prime.

The second one is even better, simply because of the Screw Attack (!!!!!!!!!!), though the switch to ammo kinda sucks, it's still an amazingly awesome, fun game that has no flaws.

So you can tell which one I voted for =p

Edit: BTW, I did go back and play all the old Metroids (yes, even the awful GameBoy one), and my opinion on them is thus: The NES one truly is a classic, but I would never play it without a map and a guide, the GB truly is a P.O.S., but has it's quirks, the SNES one truly is one of the best games on the system, and the GBA ones simply kick ass, those are almost as good as the Primes.

[V_Translanka]

First, I've never played Prime...I've played all the other Metroids but the GC Prime.

But are you talking new school XBOX Ninja Gaiden? I can only assume you are...

I also haven't played RE4...or Zelda OoT (I didn't play much Zelda after LttP...except I've played a bit of TMC)...

But how in holy hell can you compare the Chrono series to the MG series???

I mean an RPG versus a stealth/action game? That's just weird...Oh, and I dun like stealth games much so it automatically loses...No matter how revolutionary Metal Gear was, it still bit the bag.

Oh, DON'T give you that different genre crap...whoops...

[Lord J Esq]

I loved the old Metroids; Return of Samus and Super Metroid were some very formative games in my youth. But whereas Zelda went from 2D to the world of 3D and actually improved upon the premise, Metroid did the exact opposite; I waited ever so long for a sequel to that SNES masterpiece, and Metroid Prime was not what I had in mind. From what I've seen, the next sequel (Prime 2) was better, but I haven't played it yet and don't know for sure. Fusion also looks interesting, but, again, I haven't played it.

Halo, on the other hand, goes in my rubbish book. I just don't like shooters. So, I guess Prime wins be Dee Fault...Homer Simpson's two favorite words.

[V_Translanka]

Fusion, and heck, while yer at it, dig on the revamped oldschool Metroid, Metroid: Zero Mission, is well worth the play. I don't think any of the Metroids have been as good as The Return of Samus (OMG! the Metroid butt-kicking in that game!), but Fusion is a nice addition and a new spin on the oldschool Metroid games. It even kind of brings a survival-esk theme to the series, and very well I might add...What could be scarier than Samus herself?

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Edit: BTW, I did go back and play all the old Metroids (yes, even the awful GameBoy one), and my opinion on them is thus: The NES one truly is a classic, but I would never play it without a map and a guide, the GB truly is a P.O.S., but has it's quirks, the SNES one truly is one of the best games on the system, and the GBA ones simply kick ass, those are almost as good as the Primes.

OMG, you totally just lost props from me. RoS is like, the best...The only possible bad thing would be the graphics, man...I mean, the bosses were actually a CHALLENGE in RoS, unlike the rest of the Metroid games (Super Metroid was especially easy).

[nightmare975]

God, I hate topics like these, I can never vote in them!

[Mystik3eb]

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Edit: BTW, I did go back and play all the old Metroids (yes, even the awful GameBoy one), and my opinion on them is thus: The NES one truly is a classic, but I would never play it without a map and a guide, the GB truly is a P.O.S., but has it's quirks, the SNES one truly is one of the best games on the system, and the GBA ones simply kick ass, those are almost as good as the Primes.

OMG, you totally just lost props from me. RoS is like, the best...The only possible bad thing would be the graphics, man...I mean, the bosses were actually a CHALLENGE in RoS, unlike the rest of the Metroid games (Super Metroid was especially easy).

I don't like games cuz they're a challenge, I like 'em cuz they're fun. RoS was very limiting in far too many ways. I actually did enjoy playing it, but not NEARLY as much as the others. That's all.

So I guess we can call it even since you lost props from me by harshly dissing my favorite weapon. Meanie =p

[V_Translanka]

Oh fine, I'll go over my reasons for not liking the Swallow then...check that other thread later...

I don't see how you could not like RoS, though, I mean, heck you say you don't like the older ones because they're too non-linear, but RoS isn't as non-linear as the others since you had to kill specific Metroids before you could access new sections of the planet...And challenge makes it fun. I mean, if all you were fighting were larval stage Metroids, how fun would that be? Not at all. But in RoS we learn that the Metroids have different stages of development and they get bigger, tougher, and meaner w/each evolution! And then the ending baby Metroid which thus plays a big part in Super Metroid...It deserves a remake now...Nintendo needs to jump on that bad boy. Plus, first Spider Ball! Yippy! And I think first Jump Ball...I dun remember...The music was also superb! It freakin pushed the Gameboy's sound to the limit. I'd click RoS on just to hear that intro theme man.

[Mystik3eb]

No no no, I thought they were too non-linear for me to enjoy before I went back and played them. How else would I have gone back, played them, and liked them all?

My problem with RoS was not that it was non-linear, cuz it wasn't...as far as ultimate progression goes. What was hard in the non-linear way was that it was REALLY hard to find all the Metroids. Sure a game's no fun if it's too easy, but if I have to try every possible method of finding a way to get anywhere in everyplace until I finally find it...that was always my problem with trying to find all the items for all the other games (excecpt Prime...this was just easier for whatever reason). Plus not having a map to help me out made it even harder. I couldn't play through it without a map/guide.

Gameplay-wise it was better than the NES version, definetely. Music-wise, though...eh. Didn't hate it, but it didn't stand out *shrug*

But as I said, I liked it, just not as much as the others.

[Lord J Esq]

What was hard in the non-linear way was that it was REALLY hard to find all the Metroids.

Funny story. Well, not really, but when I was but a wee Josh and had this fantastic game to play, I couldn't figure out how to beat the Metroids at the end. For months I couldn't figure it out. Then I lost the catridge; it just up and vanished one day. A few years later it turned up on the floor next to my bed...just sitting there all innocent-like and pretending that it had been there all along. Bloody thing must've fallen through a time warp...I tore the place up looking for it when it went missing. Anyhow, by that time I had learned from a friend of mine that you're supposed to freeze 'em with the ice beam. (I had steered clear of the ice beam back in the day because the plasma beam was tons more powerful.) The icy goodness worked like a charm and those Metroids got a nice cold missile sandwich and I finally completed the game. A happy ending was had by all. Except for those poor Metroids. I kinda feel sorry for 'em...

[SilentMartyr]

Ninja Gaiden vs Metroid Prime (2):
While I have not played Ninja gaiden for Xbox, I have heard good things about it. But on the other hand, I love the Metroid Prime series. I never really played th earlier games before. But the new ones do it for me very well. My vote automatically goes to Prime duece, by default.

Ninja Gaiden vs RE4:
This however is a no brainer, I don't even need to play Ninja Gaiden to know which gets my vote. Resident Evil 4 is the best game ever, if Chrono trigger did not exist.

Halo (2) vs RE4: I have played Halo 2, and the same case lies. Resident Evil 4 is amazing.

More later....

[Mystik3eb]

...I suppose I should answer the rest of the questions.

The Halo games are all hype. They're the best FPSs, sure, since Metroid doesn't count as an FPS technically, but FPSs suck =p So those are obvious. I only played RE 1 (the GBN remake) and saw a few minutes of RE2 being played...didn't think highly of either. Not an RE fan, but I've heard a million good things about RE4...I dunno...but I've also never played Ninja Gaiden. So I can't answer any of those.

Zelda: OoT is one of the best games...no, ANYTHING ever created...but Chrono Cross is Chrono Cross, so it's BARELY beaten out by CC. And I only played the first MGS on PSX, and I really didn't enjoy it.  Besides, I don't understand how it could be considered a question whether or not ANY series is better then Chrono

[Kazuki]

Personally, I'd say Metroid is better simply because I enjoyed the 2d games more than I enjoyed Halo's dismal, "almost counter-strike bad" community =P.

[nightmare975]

I chose Metroid, because I grew up on it, and I have only had Halo for a year.

[CronoVolta]

Halo.

Oh yea I went there alright. Though man, do I love Metroid. I have a soft spot for chicks that can kill me seven times before I hit the ground. I don't know I guess it's reciprocal from time to time in what I like more. Single player metroid gameplay is legendary, especially in Super Metroid.