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Abortion?

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Voting closed: November 03, 2005, 12:15:24 am

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« Reply #135 on: March 28, 2006, 09:07:36 pm »
We don't need to have sex with robots for the dolphins to take over. Hasn't anyone watched Simpsons? They'll attack us!
Now, the whole Sexbot idea...unless they make it uber realistic ("yes...yes...yes..." isn't what I am looking for) and very soft, I doubt I'll really get into it. That is why I'm not a necrophiliac.
Really, I believe, in my opinion, the yellow nations to be the best.

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« Reply #136 on: March 29, 2006, 02:15:56 am »
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« Reply #137 on: March 29, 2006, 03:03:17 am »
Futurama sucks. Sex bots rule. Abstinence is sad.

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« Reply #138 on: March 29, 2006, 03:14:34 am »
What's so sad about abstinence? I don't plan hon having sex before marriage.

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« Reply #139 on: March 29, 2006, 03:47:50 am »
You are still planning on having sex.

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« Reply #140 on: March 29, 2006, 03:53:27 am »
To me, the thing that's really sad about abstinence is that, often, it is taught as part of a religious framework which holds that sex is sinful and thus by our sexuality humans are inherently flawed. It mentally corrupts people who can't bridge the gap between one of their most innate drives versus this artificial religious ideal. That's sad.

As a lifestyle choice, there's nothing wrong with abstinence. As a tool of repression, it is a harmful and shameful instrument of theocratic tyranny.

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« Reply #141 on: March 29, 2006, 03:57:12 am »
...I love sex. The whole idea of sex is awesome. The idea (*holds up hand* I swear this has no basis in the fact that I follow God's law) of "sluthood" and "whoreness" is not so awesome.

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« Reply #142 on: March 29, 2006, 04:26:02 am »
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...I love sex. The whole idea of sex is awesome. The idea (*holds up hand* I swear this has no basis in the fact that I follow God's law) of "sluthood" and "whoreness" is not so awesome.

Are you applying these labels to women only, or to anyone who participates in sex?

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« Reply #143 on: March 29, 2006, 04:34:33 am »
Anyone. I realize that slut pretty much means a woman who is promiscuous, but my intention was for everyone.

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« Reply #144 on: March 29, 2006, 05:08:42 am »
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Anyone. I realize that slut pretty much means a woman who is promiscuous, but my intention was for everyone.

Good. Then you will live to see another day. ^_^
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« Reply #145 on: March 29, 2006, 05:52:27 am »
Phew! I thought, when you gave that reply, that you were probably red in the face, shattered wine glass all over the floor, animals giving warning signs for a hurricane...luckily I replied quick  :D

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« Reply #146 on: March 29, 2006, 10:57:51 am »
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Phew! I thought, when you gave that reply, that you were probably red in the face, shattered wine glass all over the floor, animals giving warning signs for a hurricane...luckily I replied quick  :D


He's on edge about that, I presume, because he believes women and men alike should be treated equally (what a novel idea!)  As such, if you're going to call a woman some names because she does certain things, then you better be doing the same to a man who does the same/reciprocal things.  Of course, many people don't do this and thus put out a double standard.  He *really* hates it.

It's a pet peeve of mine as well, so I understood what was happening as that sequence of posts unfolded.

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There are reasons for abstaining that are more "sane" than religion.  Sex outside of a committed relationship does entail a degree of risks: your partner may carry STDs and may not let you know about them (not necessarily out of deceit; sometimes they just don't know), and a condom, even when it works, won't protect against everything.  Similarly, unless you stay away from vaginal sex, you've got to remember condoms break, and men can't verify their partners are properly using other contraception (which rarely can still fail as well).  For people who believe abortion is wrong (whether or not they expect the law to enforce it), a woman may find that risk to be unacceptable, and a man does not want to risk putting that burden of choice on his partner (and it's even worse when she has no choice).

When you get into a committed relationship, then you're reasonably sure neither of you have had sex lately, so any STDs you have should show up in testing.  So you get tested, and then you can engage when you're ready for that.

Besides, if your relationship can't hold up for, let's say, at least six months without sex, what makes you think it can hold up sixty years *with* sex?

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« Reply #147 on: March 29, 2006, 12:29:07 pm »
I agree with Maelstrom... if all you live for is sex, thats just sad... If all you see in a person of the other sex is, hmmm they look sexy, thats just sad... If you think that you will enjoy a lifetime with them, you better hope they are just as clueless as you.

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« Reply #148 on: March 29, 2006, 04:08:12 pm »
Don't worry Maelstorm, I know Josh's limits well...too well *puts hand on head and shakes head* I can never sleep without the lights on ever again...

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« Reply #149 on: March 29, 2006, 07:34:02 pm »
I think it's well-documented on the Compendium that, if there is anything that can make me turn into the Incredible Hulk, it's sexism.

Urrr! Josh SMASH!

But fortunately that isn't necessary here. Anyhow, another thing to note about abstinence is that it need not be absolute. There are degrees of restraint between sex every time you can have it versus no sex at all until marriage. Most of us in a sexual relationship regularly abstain, for reasons that have nothing to do with religion. Various and sundry, these reasons can vary as widely as the horizon, ranging from anything such as not feeling in the mood, to wanting to spend your time doing something else, to not feeling the requisite trust or readiness, to not wanting to take advantage of somebody, to being chased by grizzly bears. When you can think about abstinence outside the confines of the narrow religious version of absolute abstinence for moral reasons, the practice becomes much more applicable in everyday life.