FATE- what does it want?

[ker-plop]

OK, I understand that FATE wants the Frozen Flame to keep the Dragon Gods under its thumb, but what else does it want?  Norris mentions that Lynx said he wanted to change the world... but what did that mean?  What could FATE desire so much that it would kill for it?

[Chrono'99]

Originally she just wanted to protect mankind, but she eventually became jealous of them being living beings and her being a machine. That might have been because of her Mother Brain crazy circuit, or because of the Frozen Flame's influence.

Lynx:
   Hah...
   Come, Serge!

   Show me what the purpose of
   your life on this planet is...
   Teach me what it means to be
   '"alive!!!"'

  Humans are such fragile,
   disjointed, imperfect things.
   Love and hate...
   Life and death...

   Perhaps even FATE itself
   dreamed of using the Flame
   to some day reincarnate
   itself into a new species.
   It is quite sad, really...
   It's like when you gaze
   into the Flame, the Flame
   gazes back into you.

[Zaperking]

Yeah, It was more on the lines of the flame. Otherwise that thing about the Flame staring back at your wouldn't have been there, because it would have been irrelevant.

The flame probably mentally advanced FATE like it did to the humans, and make it have a much more human like conciousness, where it tried to understand it's own existance, rather than not knowing that it was an AI. I think that the only Mother Brain rougish part of it was it's desire to turn Wazuki into Lynx and bind Miguel to the dead sea.

[ker-plop]

So, basically FATE went "Maverick" (to use a Capcom phrase) because of the Flame?  Interesting...

But about the Dead Sea...  Is there a second FATE there, or is the Another World FATE controlling both areas?

[Sentenal]

Home's FATE ceised to exist after the Dead Sea was created, so its Another's FATE that controls it.

[ker-plop]

I see...  I remember that in Chronopolis, they can watch both worlds.  How is that even possible?  And those beings in Chronopolis; are they live, or just replaying events from the past (like the experiment)?

[Sentenal]

I see...  I remember that in Chronopolis, they can watch both worlds.  How is that even possible?  And those beings in Chronopolis; are they live, or just replaying events from the past (like the experiment)?

I think they are Ghosts...

[Kazuki]

They are assumed to be ghosts, as it was explained that the original Chronopolis inhabitants settled El Nido in 7600 B.C. (The point where Lavos pulled it back).

Also, most already know this but just incase any don't, Another's FATE cannot directly control Home World, thus proven by Porre's near complete dominance over the archipelago (as FATE wanted the least amount of outside contact as possible.)

[Mystik3eb]

I don't think the Frozen Flame influenced FATE in any way as far as advancing it or something like that...

And I thought "Maverick" was a Top Gun reference...?

[nightmare975]

And I thought "Maverick" was a Top Gun reference...?

"Maverick" means going crazy in the Megaman X series. That is the reason you fight all of those bosses.

[ker-plop]

Yes, exactly.  But if the Flame didn't influence it, why would it kill?  And as far as the Home World FATE, maybe enough of it was left to self-destruct the Dead Sea.

[Zaperking]

In Home World, the moment that it was split off, The Dead sea plumetted onto Chronopolis, and merged with it. Chronopolis is part of the Dead Sea, and scattered. FATE in Another World uses the dimensional distrotions to keep an eye on Home World, Miguel etc.

[AuraTwilight]

OK, I understand that FATE wants the Frozen Flame to keep the Dragon Gods under its thumb, but what else does it want? Norris mentions that Lynx said he wanted to change the world... but what did that mean? What could FATE desire so much that it would kill for it?

Basically to preserve the timestream.

Yeah, It was more on the lines of the flame. Otherwise that thing about the Flame staring back at your wouldn't have been there, because it would have been irrelevant.

Or it could be a literary device.

The flame probably mentally advanced FATE like it did to the humans, and make it have a much more human like conciousness, where it tried to understand it's own existance, rather than not knowing that it was an AI. I think that the only Mother Brain rougish part of it was it's desire to turn Wazuki into Lynx and bind Miguel to the dead sea.

For what reason? The Frozen Flame advanced humans for their evolutionary potential. FATE has no genes to contribute, and it would be easier to manipulate and control if it was a mindless machine.

I see... I remember that in Chronopolis, they can watch both worlds. How is that even possible?

FATE was DESIGNED to monitor different time frames and dimensions. With 2400 AD technology, the genius of Belthasar, and the power of the Frozen Flame, it should be fairly simple.

Yes, exactly. But if the Flame didn't influence it, why would it kill?

The same reason anyone else would kill. Power, interrogation, revenge. Lots of intelligent machines in fiction have been merciless killers. FATE is nothing new.

[evirus]

OK, I understand that FATE wants the Frozen Flame to keep the Dragon Gods under its thumb, but what else does it want?  Norris mentions that Lynx said he wanted to change the world... but what did that mean?  What could FATE desire so much that it would kill for it?

wasn't fates mission to make sure that the mainland remain unchanged by the time crash?

[GrayLensman]

OK, I understand that FATE wants the Frozen Flame to keep the Dragon Gods under its thumb, but what else does it want?  Norris mentions that Lynx said he wanted to change the world... but what did that mean?  What could FATE desire so much that it would kill for it?

wasn't fates mission to make sure that the mainland remain unchanged by the time crash?

FATE's mission was Project Kid.  FATE only said it wanted to preserve the timeline or become a new lifeform.