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Do you think the theory has any merit?

Yes, it has some merit.
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No, it just doesn't seem plausable to me.
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OMFG! I think you're on to something!!
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What, are you stupid or something?! It's ridiculous!
4 (26.7%)
Maybe there is a Magus - Ansem connection, but I don't think they're related.
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Voting closed: November 21, 2005, 03:54:29 pm

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« on: November 21, 2005, 03:54:29 pm »


Now, of course, this is just one of my little fanatical concepts. And I'm willing to accept the possibility that I've overlooked important facts that would make this whole crazy idea utterly impossible. If you can think of any, from either game, I'm more than willing to hear them. More facts always = good.

And yeah,... <.< ... >.> ... this is somewhat of a "suggestion" to Square-Enix that they oughta put Magus in a KH game. Call it a fanboy whim. 8)

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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2005, 05:22:10 pm »
Well, can't argue that you've got an interesting connection going there...However, I doubt that Square would make such an obscure reference (even though CT to seasoned people is common, the mainstream would find it nonsensical) in a whole seperate series. Unless, maybe that's the reason for the lack of Chrono Breakage...?

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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2005, 08:01:43 pm »
I think that's awesome! But yeah, mixing game characters seems nigh-on impossible, but it's a cool thought.

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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2005, 10:00:34 pm »
It isn't any more mixing than Square's already done with Kingdom Hearts, really. Chrono Trigger is officially recognized by Squaresoft as part of the Final Fantasy genre; while not actually bearing the FF name, the game was originally intended to be a Final Fantasy title (as evidenced by Square packaging it in with FFIV for Final Fantasy Chronicles). So yes, Magus and Ansem are from different games, but KH does incorporate popular FF characters alongside the Disney and KH-only ones, making characters from the Chrono series fair game for cameo or even plot-important roles.

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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2005, 02:05:17 am »
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Chrono Trigger is officially recognized by Squaresoft as part of the Final Fantasy genre; while not actually bearing the FF name, the game was originally intended to be a Final Fantasy title (as evidenced by Square packaging it in with FFIV for Final Fantasy Chronicles).


Uhm...no, not true. Chrono has NOTHING to do with Final Fantasy, except for being an RPG and being made by the same people. Their worlds do not co-exist. At all. KH was a freak game made to mix Final Fantasy and Disney stuff. It also had original characters. Four of them, apparently (unless I forgot more...but yeah). Chrono Trigger's port to the PSX being packaged with FFIV has nothing to do with what they were previously released as: individual SNES games back in the day. CT was meant to be the ultimate project before everyone's departure from current-gen consoles (at the time), hence why they had the "Dream Team" (which, funny enough, excluded Kato and Yasunori, who are both the only big names attributed to all things Chrono now) involved.

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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2005, 04:09:20 am »
No...Ansem and Magus are totally different types of people. Ansem is a scientist. Magus is a guy from 12000BC...

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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2005, 11:00:05 pm »
You do have some kind of connection going on their, but I don't think that's what they were going for.

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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2005, 02:58:17 am »
I'd sooner believe that Ansem and Janus were fraternal twins separated at birth than father and son.  The similarity is uncanny, isn’t it?  Maybe Square is just out of ideas...

I wonder how DiZ would fit into this little concept…

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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2005, 04:17:05 am »
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CT was meant to be the ultimate project before everyone's departure from current-gen consoles (at the time), hence why they had the "Dream Team" (which, funny enough, excluded Kato and Yasunori, who are both the only big names attributed to all things Chrono now) involved.

Kato and Mitsuda were excluded because they were totally unknown at that time (it was their first project). At least they had important roles, story and music. On the other hand, people often forget that Tetsuya Nomura worked on the "field graphics" of the game... And I'm rather glad Square didn't give him Toriyama's role :roll: Our dear Magus would have looked like this Ansem dude...

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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2005, 04:54:26 am »
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On the other hand, people often forget that Tetsuya Nomura worked on the "field graphics" of the game... And I'm rather glad Square didn't give him Toriyama's role :roll: Our dear Magus would have looked like this Ansem dude...


Am I the only person who feels that the reason FF is declining is because of the increased involvement Tetsuya Nomura has had on them? 9 was the best after 6, and strangely it was the only one Tetsuya had NO involvement in. Coinicidence? I think NOT!

...^_^ So I like the Incredibles.

I have to admit that the FF7 movies are sweet, and those are basically his brainchildren...but then again, he had a huge involvement in FF7 in the first place, so it was his own shit to improve. He did well. And Kingdom Hearts kicked ass...but I still feel he's taken out the greatest element FF had to offer, and that was the "Fantasy" part of it's name *shrug* I dunno...maybe it's just me...

...I miss Amano...*sniff*

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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2005, 10:53:13 pm »
For one thing, Janus and Schala are NOT step-siblings. This was merely a translation error. They are completely full-blooded siblings.

And no, this theory is ridiculous.

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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2005, 11:20:38 pm »
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For one thing, Janus and Schala are NOT step-siblings. This was merely a translation error. They are completely full-blooded siblings.

And no, this theory is ridiculous.


Yeah, that's interesting in that. I've heard the same about the blue-hair-dying thing. Or, rather, that whilst it is rumoured to exist in the Japanese version, it doesn't. Does the Compendium have a list of these Chrono myths and facts dispelling them? I can't remember rightly.

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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2005, 10:54:20 pm »
Where can I get good pictures of Magus? I can't find any and besides the "I feel like shit" expression on his face, that one is pretty good.

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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2005, 07:07:46 am »
Sorry but, Lavos has a better chance of being his father.

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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2005, 12:51:10 pm »
Yeah, if they hadn't put in any Amano characters, why would they randomly throw in a tribute to a Toriyama character??

From what I've heard the step-sibling translation error comes from the Japanese version in which certain Zealians allude to the possibility of Janus coming from another man because of his magical ability (or seeming lack thereof) and talk of Zeal being...how shall we say? Loose? >_>