Theory on how Lavos was put into DBT

[Naz]

Ok, I don't think anyone's said this before, but I thought it was plainly obivous. Lavos transports Crono and Co. to the DBT to fight. At the end of it Lavos vanishes and we hear him scream. Suddenly there's a white light, and we can see the sillohettes of Crono & Co. but we can also see the sillohette of the Right Bit of Lavos.

Perhaps this surviving bit got stuck in the DBT and merged with Schala?

[Sentenal]

Or, the Lavos that existed post 1999ad, that was discarded along with the destroyed future, is the Lavos in the DBT.  Lavos didn't bring Crono and co to the DBT to fight.

[Naz]

I've always had the impression that that's where they went. It seemed different than his Pocket Dimension.

Nonetheless, what is the point of this existing bit? Doesn't it seem strange that it would appear again after Lavos has been wiped out?

[Zaperking]

I never saw that bit.

What I think that happened was that the Pocket Dimension was parallel to the DBT, which caused Lavos to be transtimentional. As Lavos was destroyed, his energy that powered the pocket dimension weakened and it started coming apart. Lavos was sucked into the DBT and the end of him.

BTW, the moment Lavos is defeated doesn't cause a new timeline, it just changes the future. It's when Crono and co get back that the timeline is fully developed, but you usually say it's "instant" Sentenal.

Anyway, what I dug up from the game script (and this makes Starx on GameFAQs wrong about Lavos being psychic). Lavos was beaconed by the Flame and pulled back Chronopolis further in time than it should have. The idea was that the Lavos in 12,000BC saw Chronopolis and understood what was going on - that a group of time travellors would defeat him in the future. That Lavos would safeguard itself, which would cause the Lavos in the DBT to comeback.

By the way, I just had a thought. It wouldn't be too farfetched if Crono and co defeated Lavos in the Black Omen in 12,000BC. If it is not destroyed, the Black Omen would still exist into the future, and Chronopolis would definetely know that Zeal existed. Chronopolis actually does not have hard evidence that Zeal existed, nor that Lavos actually appeared in 1999AD in their time, and that it only happened in other timelines.
Basically, if Lavos was defeated in 12,000BC, then he truely would be out of time forever, even in 1999AD. And this may be why Lavos had to pull back Chronopolis so it'd interfer and Lavos would realise what was about to happen.

[fxar99]

If Zaperking hasn't seen it, it might be a bug. I've seen it, but I've been playing on ZSNES emulator. If somebody has played CT on SNES, they can tell us for sure.

[Naz]

It doesn't look like a bug. It's perfectly ok, it fades in simultaneously with the other character's shadows. If it was a bug, it wouldn't be as clear as that, it'd have like mix-matched colored shapes around the Bit.

[Zaperking]

Can you get a screeen shot? It could be just bad timing. Did you use cheats or? Beucase if you defeated both bits, then the centre bit, then you shouldn't see the other bits Oo

[Naz]

No cheats. I've never used cheats on CT. I'll try to get a screen.

[Mystik3eb]

I've always wondered about that Bit, meself.

And Zaper, I agree about the Black Omen being canon. I suppose I would agree with a theory I believe Senetenal brought up, saying that once the BO is destroyed, the party is transported to Lavos erupting in 1999 AD...would fit all the issues at hand with the following argument. Why they were transported at that time, who knows? And who cares, honestly? Not important.

[Zaperking]

I don't think that they were transported to 1999AD. Actually, I think they were directly transported into his pocket dimension, cuz thats the place you appear almost instantly, not on the 1999AD map or anything.

[CyberSarkany]

Here a pic after pwning Lavos(made it a bit smaller, because nothing else was there, and it was fun winning under 2 min vs lavos hehe)

[Zaperking]

That doesn't look like the bit. That looks like the Mammon Machine as time distorts, theres like one scene in the background where its like a ruin for the Mammon Machine.

[Naz]

That doesn't look like the bit. That looks like the Mammon Machine as time distorts, theres like one scene in the background where its like a ruin for the Mammon Machine.

It's the bit, it just doesn't look like it since it's all blacked out.

[Mystik3eb]

I don't think that they were transported to 1999AD. Actually, I think they were directly transported into his pocket dimension, cuz thats the place you appear almost instantly, not on the 1999AD map or anything.

Pick one, then. BO or no BO. One or the other is canon, not both, because of all the Chronopolis talk, of which you two are arguing about in the other thread.

[Zaperking]

I don't think that they were transported to 1999AD. Actually, I think they were directly transported into his pocket dimension, cuz thats the place you appear almost instantly, not on the 1999AD map or anything.

Pick one, then. BO or no BO. One or the other is canon, not both, because of all the Chronopolis talk, of which you two are arguing about in the other thread.

What are you on about? The Moment Zeal is defeated, you get sent to his PD, which means you don't arrive in 1999AD >.>