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On the article: The secret of nu.
« on: December 11, 2005, 08:43:36 am »
This is a very small addition, possibly not even requiring its own thread, but here goes:
The writer stated that the one letter had two different pronunciations: NEW and NEE, implying that it was the same letter. To some extent this is true, but in reality, the NEW pronunciation (actually it should be NOO, but for ease of understanding, it will remain NEW) is the ancient greek iteration of it and NEE is the modern greek spoken today.

This leads on to the next logical stage of reasoning, linguistics.
The japanese developers of Chrono Trigger, while possibly using modern greek as a base, would not use ancient greek simply because of the fact that only linguists, philologists and people who study ancient languages actually know how to speak it and the differences of its alphabet. If it weren't for a small community of people who still practised ancient greek customs and language in a small town found some time last century, we would still assume that the alphabet was the same.
Furthermore, since there are no greek roots in japanese, they would have no reason to study such a language anyway.

Next, I say that the linkage through the ages of 'nu' being linked to water is also ridiculous, not becasuse its not true, but again because of the fact that the developers were not linguists. If the developers wanted to link the Nu to water, they would maybe make it more obvious, naming them after the japanese word for water. Also, while we can trace it all backwards, it would be much harder to find the thing that means water then trace the lineage forward and come up with a name that is viable; there would be too much risk of it being a failure when they could put those man-hours into something else.

 All of this leads me to believe that the point which the article is based on is flimsy at best, and the article possibly discredited.
I think it would be more valuable to look into the inflection and deeper meaning of 'Nu' in japanese.

For one there is the example of shinu (using the stem, nu) which means to die. There are probably others but I am not exactly versed in Japanese.

Then again, maybe we are all thinking too hard, and they just thought that the name 'Nu' sounded cool. :)

So there you have it, my take on the article: The secret of nu.
Think on that for a bit. What do you think?

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On the article: The secret of nu.
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2005, 10:21:21 am »
I think if they used the japanese term for water instead of "nu", it would be too obvious, if it's even meant to be water. They wanted to make people like us think about it, and with using a word like "nu", which has several meanings, they did.

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On the article: The secret of nu.
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2005, 11:41:36 am »
Wasn't it called nwu or something in the Japanese version? I forget...

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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2005, 04:56:11 pm »
I think that the secret of the Nu lies not in what their called but what they do... what do they do?  They kind of show up at random moments and arn't too beneficial to the plot or gameplay, at least in the first game.

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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2005, 11:44:38 pm »
...Your point? That doesn't explain anything at all.

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2006, 02:24:35 am »
Nu's appear to be deeply connected to the planet. While they seem to provide no real physical assistance to the earth that we've seen. (besides holding rare rocks) they seem to be more of a spitirtual creature. Perhaps that was why Balthesar chose that creature to maintain in the future. I'd like to think the meaning of "Nu" can be found in a spiritual sense.

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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2006, 08:16:23 pm »
Which is again why I say we should start a cult of nu...Only then can we find the true meaning.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2006, 02:36:33 pm »
That purple font is annoying.

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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2006, 08:30:15 pm »
I like it. It just depends on what Forum settings you are using.

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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2006, 09:12:57 pm »
A verb stem on it's own in Japanese has no meaning, it's just a stem, just a random hiragana letter. There are no important kanji with the reading 'nu' either.

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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2006, 11:08:51 pm »
Well I don't have to use the purple font...I just have it set to auto format on Gaia(where it matches my avatar), which in turn auto formats it on a few other boards. I'm too lazy to turn it off whenever I switch boards. Besides, I think it's pretty  :P
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2006, 06:29:35 pm »
When your posts land on the lighter blue squares it's not so annoying, but on dark blue I have to highlight to read XP

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On the article: The secret of nu.
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2006, 10:06:17 pm »
Quote from: LadyShiva
Well I don't have to use the purple font...I just have it set to auto format on Gaia(where it matches my avatar), which in turn auto formats it on a few other boards. I'm too lazy to turn it off whenever I switch boards. Besides, I think it's pretty  :P
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When your posts land on the lighter blue squares it's not so annoying, but on dark blue I have to highlight to read XP


I didn't notice a problem because I use the subSilver scheme, But purple text is almost impossible to read using the Zurvan scheme.  You're going to have to change it.

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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2006, 12:35:36 pm »
Haha who are you to tell him to change it?
I can read it on any computer I'm on!
I think if you can't read it, switch it so you can.
It's not a big deal.

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2006, 05:05:53 pm »
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Haha who are you to tell him to change it?
I can read it on any computer I'm on!
I think if you can't read it, switch it so you can.
It's not a big deal.


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