Sentenal:
My 'evidence' was that the events are important, REGARDLESS of who the entity is. It would be important if it was the Gurus, it would be important if it was the Planet. Therefore, discard it.
It's impossible for me to discard that evidence. You and I interpreted it differently, but it's the same evidence. If I simply discard that, I lose my argument that there is significance to the Gurus being in the time periods they appear in. I have also explained how it is possible that the timelines they don't reside in are still significant to them. So you see, it's impossible for me to discard the evidence of the timelines. The only difference is how you and I interpret it.
But do you realize that its not possible for the Guru's to create that gate there, and change history to start their quest? Gates don't form for no reason.
Except, it could have been possible, and this is what I'm getting at with all the talk about the pendant. The pendant at that point was not fully charged, but it was once charged with the power of Lavos, who can make gates. The telepod provided some interraction that allowed the gate at the fairgrounds to form. Combine that with Melchior's quote that you and I argued about earlier, and we have a possibility the Gurus at least knew what was going to happen. And if they knew what was going to happen, that opens up for more discussion as to how involved they could have been.
Listen, I asked a question. I asked to explain why he would still go insane, and you dodged it.
Except, I didn't dodge it, hence, my frustration and confusion at your response to my repsonse. If you can't take the reasoning I gave as an answer to your question, then your question may not be able to be answered.
V_Translanka:
Because I assumed that you would not be able to counter that...You're not the first person to make an Entity arguement after all (there are still nutbags at GameFAQs who still spout on about Alfador...whether they're joking or not...it's no longer funny...if it ever was...).
Next time consider the site you are on - this is supposed to be a credible Chrono series site, and if I am not mistaken, I posted in the analysis and theory forums, where serious thought is supposed to occur.
And, as I read, you haven't. Nothing you say makes it so that it's the Gurus who are dying or reliving their memories. Thus, teh Entity...not the Gurus. So, yes, it was addressed, but there was no good supporting evidence for your Guru cause there that I read.
Yes, I have addressed this in a proper manner. What you read, however, was not what you wanted to hear, and what you did read is that there is the chance that the speculation (which is what it was) made by Robo, Frog, etc... during the campfire scene may not have been exactly the analogies they made to try to understand the existence of some "Entity" figure that wanted them to see everything that happened and caused or guided the events of Chrono Trigger. I provided a case where it may have appeared that this "Entity" was reliving its life, or in other words, how it could have appeared to the heroes that the planet was this "Entity", but in reality it may not have been. What you were looking for was "The Gurus were reliving, X,Y, and Z" and that's not what I gave. You have to be open to other possibilities - things are not always as clear-cut as they look.
Zaperking:
The Planet is almost God-like in CC.
I've played through CC a few times by now, and I never thought the planet was God-like. If you are talking about pullling Dinopolis from another dimension to balance out Chronopolis being pulled back through time, this could be explained by Newton's Third Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Dinopolis being pulled through from its dimension into the timeline Chronopolis got pulled back through may have been simply physics happening in a really messed up manner. If I missed quotes from CC (other than the Dragon God saying the planet hated mankind - it could be up for debate as to how the Dragon God knew this or if it was simply expressing its own opinion and thought it was acting for the planet by wanting to wipe it clean of humans) or if Kato specifically said something, please inform me.
