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Something is finally clear to me (Chronopolis terraform)
« on: December 20, 2005, 04:42:10 pm »
I never quite understood how Chronopolis was equipped with the powers to terraform an entire spot of island. I've always sort of shrugged this mystery off, leaving it to the advanced technology of the time city. However, it just became clear as I was completing the Reptites entry:

In order to control the natural
   energy itself, FATE divided the
   one Dragon God entity up into
   6 weaker plasma life-forms...

This follows an explanation that the Dragon God (whole) allowed the Dragonians to control the natural world in their own dimension.

Now, I just made the connection that in acquiring the powers of the Dragon God and its fragments, FATE was presumably able to use their elemental effects to shape El Nido. The original powers over nature became a sort of tool to Chronopolis. This seems logical; in the absence of terraforming equipment, what better to use than an advanced machine created expressly for controlling nature? What do you think?

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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2005, 05:31:43 pm »
For reference, could you post the text where it says that the Dragon God allowed the Dragonians to control the natural world in their dimension?

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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2005, 05:44:20 pm »
Belthasar:
   The Dragon Gods were originally
   a singular plasma life-form...
   ...A living accumulation of the
   planet's energy!
   Originally it was a biological
   machine used to control the
   powers of nature in the future
   society of the Reptites.
   In order to control the natural
   energy itself, FATE divided the
   one Dragon God entity up into
   6 weaker plasma life-forms...
   Then scattered them across
   the land and sealed them away.
   Their dragon-like appearances
   are just pseudo-guises...
   ...Temporary forms they take
   so that they can appear in
   this dimension.

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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2005, 05:47:33 pm »
I always assumed the terraforming of El Nido simply involved bulldozers and large amounts of explosives.  However, that is another interesting possibility.

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2005, 09:07:51 pm »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but prior to the arrival of the two cities and the subsequent defeated of Dinopolis, wasn’t the whole area now known as El Nido nothing more than open ocean?  In fact, wasn’t that region of ocean referred to as the Sea of Eden, and the only natural landmass located there was what we now call Gaia's Navel?

If so, then the ability to manipulate the elements via the separated dragon god's power would certainly aided in the construction of El Nido.  While Chronopolis might have been advanced enough to do it themselves, having the ability to merely ‘will’ a huge chunk of the sea floor above the ocean's surface could have sped up the process.

So its a bit from column A and a bit from column B I suppose.

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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2005, 09:29:14 pm »
I think the land where Arni/Termina are situated was the only part that was actually Terra formed. Maybe not. I had always thought that any island with the dragons was created with their own power. By sealing the Dragon God into each element, the islands may have been created to suit the dragon of that elemental power.

The place where Arni/Termina are may have been created in combination of all dragons.

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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2005, 10:33:35 pm »
Quote from: Silvercry
Correct me if I'm wrong, but prior to the arrival of the two cities and the subsequent defeated of Dinopolis, wasn’t the whole area now known as El Nido nothing more than open ocean?  In fact, wasn’t that region of ocean referred to as the Sea of Eden, and the only natural landmass located there was what we now call Gaia's Navel?

Based on the view screen in Chronopolis, the barrier reefs surrounding El Nido existed before the time crash, so the area was originally an atol.  The screen shows Gaia's Navel, but I think that landmass also appeared during the Time Crash.  The other islands could have been formed by re-activating the volcanic remnant to create Mount Pyre and mining coral from the lagoon. Earth Dragon Isle is the only anomaly, because it appears to be composed of sandstone.  This lends credence to Zeality's idea that the Dragons' power had something to do with it.

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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2005, 12:05:36 am »
Well, Zeality, I think you may be right.  It certainly looks plausable.

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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2005, 01:26:24 am »
Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense...

Y'know, someone should start an article on the aspects of El Nido... (How the islands got there, what finishing Cross does timewise and why they're still there, etc.) Maybe that would explain a lot to "befuddled" folks like me.

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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2005, 09:14:28 am »
Well, we know for certain that Sky Dragon Isle is in reality the partially submerged Terra Tower.  Its likely than the earth Chronopolis sits on was caught in the Time Crash along with the city proper (not unlike how Macross Island and most of the ocean around it was caught in the SDF-1's botched sapcefold, to use an ancient example).  I thought Gaia's Navel was always there, but I could be wrong.

Every Dragon has a corresponding island don’t they?  If so, that would go a long way to supporting ZeaLitY's theory…

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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2005, 10:30:40 am »
Quote from: Silvercry
Well, we know for certain that Sky Dragon Isle is in reality the partially submerged Terra Tower.  Its likely than the earth Chronopolis sits on was caught in the Time Crash along with the city proper (not unlike how Macross Island and most of the ocean around it was caught in the SDF-1's botched sapcefold, to use an ancient example).  I thought Gaia's Navel was always there, but I could be wrong.

Every Dragon has a corresponding island don’t they?  If so, that would go a long way to supporting ZeaLitY's theory…


Yeah, even the Black Dragon has Marbule. What about the island of the damned? Unless it was always there, until it got mutated. Though, the Green Dragon would have used Gaia's Navel, even though it was not built for him.

BTW, there is no city on the island of Chronopolis. The Island is for Chronopolis alone. And it's actually disguised as a Military Research Facility, not a time-experimenting place.

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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2005, 05:01:46 pm »
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What about the island of the damned?


I guess it was an island like all the others that were created until the Masamune corrupted it.

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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2005, 11:43:36 am »
This definitely looks plausible.  The Dragon Gods' power very well could have given FATE the ability to terraform.  There is one quote, however, that leads me to believe Chronopolis could have had the technology to terraform...

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[Ghost]
   You're from Medina, right?
   I've been on this island
   for a year and a half now.
   Man, I've had enough.
   Aside from the man-made island
   with this research center,
   there isn't a single island
   in the sea of El Nido.

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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2005, 04:10:35 pm »
Regardless of HOW they made it, the islands were made by Chronopolis' volition, so it's still man-made even if they used Dragonian magic.

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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2005, 04:14:20 pm »
Gaia's Navel and the Sea of Eden were there originally, as well as the reef around the area.