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Re: Quote Digest
« Reply #465 on: October 17, 2009, 06:59:36 pm »
Holy books are the most dangerous books in the world. Er...sorry...

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Holy books are the most dangerous books in the world.

Any book that is claimed to be imbued with the authority with a deity is a recipe for disaster of every conceivable variety.

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Re: Quote Digest
« Reply #466 on: October 19, 2009, 04:40:42 am »
Quote from: Woodrow Wilson
Of course, like every other man of intelligence and education I do believe in organic evolution. It surprises me that at this late date such questions should be raised.

Letter to Winterton C. Curtis (29 August 1922)

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Re: Quote Digest
« Reply #467 on: October 19, 2009, 03:46:43 pm »

Quote from: Henry Youngman
I once wanted to become an atheist, but I gave up... they have no holidays.
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Re: Quote Digest
« Reply #468 on: October 19, 2009, 07:02:42 pm »

Quote from: Henry Youngman
I once wanted to become an atheist, but I gave up... they have no holidays.
December 24th, Capitalism Day.

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Re: Quote Digest
« Reply #469 on: October 19, 2009, 07:09:58 pm »

And by Capitalism Day, you mean... what, exactly?

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Re: Quote Digest
« Reply #470 on: October 19, 2009, 07:45:17 pm »
And by Capitalism Day, you mean... what, exactly?

Christmas Eve--"buy a lot of shit" day.

Although I'd argue that "Black Friday" (day after U.S. Thanksgiving) is more a Capitalism Day than Christmas Eve.

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Re: Quote Digest
« Reply #471 on: October 19, 2009, 08:02:25 pm »
Every weekend is an atheist holiday: D&D, yo!

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Re: Quote Digest
« Reply #472 on: October 19, 2009, 10:30:27 pm »
Every weekend is an atheist holiday: D&D, yo!

Pfft, haven't you heard? Religious types have adopted that pagan holiday too. It's St. Cuthbert's Day, now!

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Re: Quote Digest
« Reply #473 on: October 19, 2009, 10:36:02 pm »
They are pretenders and vile alchemists. Only our Cheetos stains are true.

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Re: Quote Digest
« Reply #474 on: October 20, 2009, 03:58:36 pm »

Quote from: Henry Youngman
I once wanted to become an atheist, but I gave up... they have no holidays.

It's Henny Youngman.

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« Reply #475 on: October 20, 2009, 03:59:55 pm »

My bad...

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Re: Quote Digest
« Reply #476 on: October 20, 2009, 04:15:12 pm »
Not many Hennys in the world. I wouldn't feel bad over it.   :)

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Re: Quote Digest
« Reply #477 on: October 22, 2009, 10:23:09 pm »
From http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/wright.htm:

Quote from: Frances Wright
The hired preachers of all sects, creeds, and religions, never do, and never can, teach any thing but what is in conformity with the opinions of those who pay them.
-- Frances Wright, "Divisions of Knowledge" (1828), quoted from Annie Laurie Gaylor, Women Without Superstition, p. 40

I am neither Jew nor Gentile, Mahomedan nor Theist; I am but a member of the human family, and would accept of truth by whomsoever offered -- that truth which we can all find, if we will but seek -- in things, not in words; in nature, not in human imagination; in our own hearts, not in temples made with hands.
-- Frances Wright, Life, Letters and Lectures, p. 101, quoted from Annie Laurie Gaylor, Women Without Superstition, p. 34

Time is it to arrest our speculations respecting unseen worlds and inconceivable mysteries, and to address our inquiries to the improvement of our human condition, and our efforts to the practical illustration of those beautiful principles of liberty and equality enshrined in the political institutions, and, first and chief, in the national declaration of independence.
-- Frances Wright, Life, Letters and Lectures, p. 101, quoted from Annie Laurie Gaylor, Women Without Superstition, p. 34

Instead of establishing facts, we have to overthrow errors; instead of ascertaining what is, we have to chase from our imaginations what is not.
-- Frances Wright, calling churches the most formidable enemy of human progress, third lecture at the Cincinnati, Ohio, Courthouse, August 24, 1828, from Life, Letters and Lectures, pp. 39, 44, quoted from Annie Laurie Gaylor, Women Without Superstition, p. 36-7

A necessary consequent of religious belief is the attaching ideas of merit to that belief, and of demerit to its absence. Now here is a departure from the first principle of true ethics. Here we find ideas of moral wrong and moral right associated with something else than beneficial action. The consequent is, we lose sight of the real basis of morals, and substitute a false one. Our religious belief usurps the place of our sensations, our imaginations of our judgment.... We no longer look to actions, trace their consequences, and then deduce the rule; we first make the rule, and then, right or wrong, force the action to square with it.
-- Frances Wright, "Morals" lecture, from Life, Letters and Lectures, p. 73-4, quoted from Annie Laurie Gaylor, Women Without Superstition, p. 37

I purpose to develope with you that just rule of life, which no system of religion ever taught, or can ever teach; which exists apart from all faith, all creeds, and all written laws, and which can alone be found by following, with an open eye, a ready ear, and a willing heart, the steps of knowledge; by exercising the senses, faculties, and feelings, which appertain to our own nature; and, instead of submitting our reason to the authority of fallible teachers, by bringing always the words of all books and all teachers to the test of our reason.
-- Frances Wright, "Divisions of Knowledge" (1828), quoted from Annie Laurie Gaylor, Women Without Superstition, p. 42-3

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Re: Quote Digest
« Reply #478 on: October 22, 2009, 10:35:00 pm »
I want to know what Zeality believe in. I mean really truly believes in.

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Re: Quote Digest
« Reply #479 on: October 22, 2009, 10:37:46 pm »
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Humanity's manifest destiny is illumination.

Some may disagree, but this is the course I've set for humanity. The human race will have a conclusion, just as its risen from humble, animal origins over thousands of years. That ascent will continue. Humans will augment their knowledge and themselves; they'll explore the stars with high technology; they'll seek to learn all they can about the universe and themselves, and transcend humanity to achieve higher sentience. This is humanism (and these days, "transhumanism" is becoming another boon). This is the direction humanity is going, despite a few stumbling steps.

To frame all of human affairs and arguments in the context of human nature and this manifest destiny of illumination is to gain a solid foundation of understanding of things. When I first read the Constitution, I asked, "pursuit of happiness—but what is happiness?" Without awareness of a conclusion, or meaning (excluding even meaning assigned by religion, like "life exists to get to heaven"), this world is nothing but a population of frail life-forms who run about day to day in search of some fleeting pleasure. Everything begins with desire, whether conscious or biological; the "pursuit of happiness" is allowing these desires to compete for fulfillment.

I know humanity is more than that. All our efforts to reduce inequality and injustice; to educate and learn about this world and ourselves; to answer the cosmological questions of the universe and find our own meaning in this existence—it's all a forward process to our "enlightenment" as sentient beings, and beyond. To stand back, and accept human nature—for all its savagery and cruelty, as well as its passion, love, and altruism—and to desire still improvement and more understanding—that's meaningful and insightful, and that's what's going to happen. It's excelsior; it's the springtime of youth; it's the stars beckoning the children of earth to discover all the wonders of the world, within and without them.

To examine social issues and the human condition through this lens is humanism, transcendent of culture, tradition, religion, and belief. It ushers much into view about the beauty of humanity and our environment, and it allows one to debate and strive with a clear goal and metric in mind. It is acceptance and striving both; serenity and ambition.



Let's see what's out there.

I believe in the manifest destiny of humanity's illumination, and humanity's capacity to get there and improve itself. I believe in no gods or spirituality whatsoever, right down to watered-down quackery like homeopathic medicine or laughable ideas like an ubiquitous "life force" (that a share of atheists do annoyingly believe in). If my career were in science, I'd probably imagine myself like GrayLensman did; as a rationally-thinking character from a hard science fiction novel. Spiritualism has no claim on the beauty of this world, nor the art capturing that beauty.
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