Quote Digest

[Lord J Esq]

Not my favorite, but the first one that came to mind, this is by Heinlein: “They didn’t want it good, they wanted it Wednesday.”

[Truthordeal]

I take it V merged these two?

[Lord J Esq]

Yeah. He shouldn't have, though. One-liners are technically "quotes," I guess, but the concept is much more specific and it doesn't really fit in an all-purpose thread like this.

[V_Translanka]

What else are one-liners if they AREN'T quotes?? Seems like if you want you can just specify what kind of quotes you're posting while you're in here...No need for a whole other thread of the same kind of borderline spamminess if you ask me...*shrugs*

"The will to conquer all shall never conquer all will" - idk if this is actually a real quote, something my mind modified or if i just made it up, but i liked the sound of it as i was typing it.

[Lord J Esq]

One-liners are in the realm of comedy. They qualify as quotations because they are typically spoken, but the world of quotation in general is very differently and more broadly purposed. It's like merging a thread about the best-tasting cold medicine into a thread about people's favorite things to eat and drink. The focus kills the compatibiltiy.

[V_Translanka]

I would probably merge those...1) a cold medicine thread? that's lame...2) it's about the TASTE, so discussion would be more similar to the eat & drink one...Now, if it was about the medicinal value of the cold medicine, I'd see where you're coming from...but regardless, neither of these quote threads are really going anywhere but people listing off things. I'd rather have as few of those types of threads as possible.

Alright, this isn't really a quote or anything, but am I the only one who thinks its funny when in pr0n the girl tells the guy to fuck her whilst they're fucking? Y'know, that breathy kind of, "fuck me, yeah!" kind of thing...who says that during sex? Its kind of close to, "Are you in yet?" if you think about it... Ah, the wacky world of pr0n...so unbelievably hyper-sexualized. I swear, its like watching a abstract painting sometimes...

[MsBlack]

I don’t understand why you merge these threads so much. You seem to strive to minimise threads (at the expense of specificity), but don’t say why. What we end up with are a few monstrosities that are liable to become too broad in scope (and which would probably do better even as their own forums than as single threads) and short-lived but current threads dominating this forum, uncertainty as to where to post some things (and fear of creating new topics for these things in case they get merged and lost to obscurity) and a situation where people explicitly acknowledge from the outset that their threads might be merged in their infancy.

To be honest, it seems like the only reason you merge as many threads as you do and have edited as many posts as you have is because of a notion of propriety regarding modding—you seem to feel like you have to do something, and so doing something has become an empty end instead of incidental to a purposeful end, or that, on other forums, thread merging and post editing is rampant and so you transfer that observation to how you mod here.

[Zephira]

I don't know, a lot of what I've seen in this thread was one-liners. And when I saw the title of that other thread, I thought it meant flirting lines. Sometimes I wish there was a feature that lets you disable new-post notifications for specific threads.

And to stay one topic, have a quote: "On the keyboard of life, always keep one finger near the escape key." I think that qualifies as a one liner...

[V_Translanka]

You seem to strive to minimise threads (at the expense of specificity), but don’t say why.

Usually I try to edit the thread poster's post in the merged thread to say why.

What we end up with are a few monstrosities that are liable to become too broad in scope (and which would probably do better even as their own forums than as single threads) and short-lived but current threads dominating this forum, uncertainty as to where to post some things (and fear of creating new topics for these things in case they get merged and lost to obscurity) and a situation where people explicitly acknowledge from the outset that their threads might be merged in their infancy.

To be honest, it seems like the only reason you merge as many threads as you do and have edited as many posts as you have is because of a notion of propriety regarding modding—you seem to feel like you have to do something, and so doing something has become an empty end instead of incidental to a purposeful end, or that, on other forums, thread merging and post editing is rampant and so you transfer that observation to how you mod here.

Quite the opposite, I'm afraid. Most forums I've been to have very little moderation and are left with dozens of garbage threads akin to, "WHO'S THE HOTTEST FF GIRL?", "WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE W/E?", etc. Those types of threads are just there to breed post-whores and usually mark the end of a forums (or at least anything resembling discussion on any real level). I'd rather have friendly giant threads anyone can jump into, which, I admit, are probably intimidating to n00bs or w/e rather than pages & pages of threads that are too similar to one another (or, worse, are just lame game threads). I DO wish there was merging notifications because I know that sometimes thread creators probably think their thread was deleted...I mostly merge because I know that many think necromancy is a no-no, which in the Compendium it is not. If there's already a thread for it, why not post in that rather than make an entirely new thread? Search function, baby, use it!

ON TOPICNESS (it's easy to do!)...

"There are no passengers on Spaceship Earth.  We are all crew."  ~Marshall McLuhan, 1964

[DarthMagus]

From a fortune cookie I got.

"Act as if it were impossible to fail."

Best thing I've ever read on a fortune cookie.

The best fortune cookie ever, however was one my friend Jon got. The fortune was completely blank. Nothing on it at all. How does one interpret that? XD

[MsBlack]

Usually I try to edit the thread poster's post in the merged thread to say why.

I meant in general, not specifically. I meant that you haven’t specified your reasoning for your general approach.

Quite the opposite, I'm afraid. Most forums I've been to have very little moderation and are left with dozens of garbage threads akin to, "WHO'S THE HOTTEST FF GIRL?", "WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE W/E?", etc. Those types of threads are just there to breed post-whores and usually mark the end of a forums (or at least anything resembling discussion on any real level).

Such boards suffer not from having too many threads but from a lack of posting quality and lacking posting standards.

I'd rather have friendly giant threads anyone can jump into, which, I admit, are probably intimidating to n00bs or w/e…

Plonking everything into the megathreads discourages full exploration and discussion of individual items. The pace of the megathreads is much higher because they cover so much, and it’s much harder to have ongoing or deep exchanges in them because the current’s so swift.

…rather than pages & pages of threads that are too similar to one another…

Better to have pages and pages of threads that run their course and can be revived at the expense of encouraging searching and necromancy than having a few limited or overworked megathreads dominating the forum and limiting discussion and discouraging people from starting new threads.

If there's already a thread for it, why not post in that rather than make an entirely new thread?

You’re oversimplifying. I’ve already pointed out that megathreads are problematic. You still haven’t stated why a greater number of more specific threads is necessarily a bad thing, or why it would be such a great problem with this particular forum that it wouldn’t work given a bit of time and perhaps some mod intervention in the beginning.

That aside, merging threads—which kills them even if the bodies are still there—isn’t the only option. It’s much more constructive to broaden the scopes of overly specific threads or merge several of them than terminate them.

[Boo the Gentleman Caller]

If there's already a thread for it, why not post in that rather than make an entirely new thread?

I guess we only need one Chrono Trigger Discussion Thread, one Chrono Cross Discussion Thread, and one Radical Dreamers Discussion Thread.  Phew.  I'm glad we got that simplified.

[Truthordeal]

The best fortune cookie ever, however was one my friend Jon got. The fortune was completely blank. Nothing on it at all. How does one interpret that? XD

He must have no future. An omen, to be sure.

[Mr Bekkler]

I've always thought V's mergings were pretty fair, or at least well-thought out. I've never been afraid to post a new thread. In fact you can probably still find one of the first threads I made here. "What's with that Snot Bubble?" It may seem like a bullshit title, but it's pretty accurate and a full-blown discussion talking not about the gameplay, not about the character Gaspar, but about the Japanese cartoon culture vs. the American cartoon culture, and the resulting knowledge or lack thereof of what the snot bubble was supposed to really be, and what other nuances the two types of cartoons don't share.

My point is V never merged it with a Gaspar thread, or an End of Time thread, or a Japan thread, so I've never felt like he's being tyrannical in any way. Usually if you have something to say, it can be said. This place is open to ideas, even if we're all willing to debate about them.

To finish, a few good Aldous Huxley quotes.

All gods are homemade, and it is we who pull their strings, and so, give them the power to pull ours.

An intellectual is a person who's found one thing that's more interesting than sex.

After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music.

Beauty is worse than wine, it intoxicates both the holder and beholder.

Dream in a pragmatic way.

[Truthordeal]

Dream in a pragmatic way.

*scratches head* An oxymoron, yes?