Why should Crono Cross even be considered as a sequel?

[Legend of the Past]

It's a sequel, and if you didn't like it, you can go suck a lemon. It's the story of the Planet, not Crono's and his friends'.

And the Nail On The Head Award for Feb '06 goes to Legend of the Past, for summing up in one sentence the very essence of the Chrono Universe.  Bravo.

Heh, thanks. But seriously, you have an entire planet full of life forms and you focus on five humans, one primate and a robot? Give me a break. If you don't like the 40 characters, I have one thing to tell you: DON'T USE THEM. I used only an handful of characters in the game, mainly Serge\Lynx, Harle\Kid, Fargo, Glenn and Zappa. That's it. Seven characters, two of which are main characters. When I wanted to use summons, I just brought up whatever character needed (Mostly Viper, really) and won\pilfered everything else.

[Zaperking]

Yeah, I accept CC as a sequal, personally thinking that it's better than CT.
But as I already said, the intention of it was to be a totally different game, almost kameo like. We're not here to save the planet, but Schala. It's just the fact that the planet doesn't want the world to end.... (so it decided to slaughter a bunch of dragonians, and absolutely do nothing this time around) because it's a life sucking b*tch that just wants to preserve itself.

[Chrono'99]

CC isn't just about saving Schala.

[knuck]

RD wasn't supposed to be a CT sequel in first place.
CC is a cool game, and it is CT's sequel (as much as RD is, like it or not). I myself like to think of RD as CT's sequel, and simply consider CC another series.
Whoever said that CC got rid of CT's plotholes is a fucking liar. It simply added a few more to the Chrono series.

[AuraTwilight]

We're not here to save the planet, but Schala. It's just the fact that the planet doesn't want the world to end.... (so it decided to slaughter a bunch of dragonians, and absolutely do nothing this time around) because it's a life sucking b*tch that just wants to preserve itself.

....You mean Lavos?

Seriously though, the Planet is the lifeforce of every other organism, so it has every right to fight for it's self preservation. If a race needs to die to support many others, so be it. That's survival of the fittest and evolution. Also, I don't think the Planet is directly responsible for the death of the Dragonians.

[ChronoMagus]

Despite the fact Chrono Cross may not have all the elements of CT... IT IS THE SEQUEL.  Do I like CT more? Hell yeah.  Do I somewhat deep down wish that CC was not the sequel? Hell yeah.  Do I hope Chrono Brake will come and return back to CT-style? Hell yeah.  But do I still respect CC right to be a sequel and right to be a game worthy of the Chrono saga? (I will give you a hint... look back at my previous answers.... come on its not hard...) Hell yeah.  (Don't worry I won't say hell yeah again...)
Case and point: Chrono Cross is the sequel, Chrono Cross is a wonderful game and incredible RPG (I would deem it actually best for PSX not counting the CT port), and even if you don't agree with the second part IT STILL IS A GODDAMN SEQUEL!  The characters are refrenced, as well as the places, as well as the objects and events in history. The final boss is directly related to CT...
I am sorry if I sounded harsh, but accept the truth.  You must accept this as the truth.

[Mystik3eb]

Case and point: Chrono Cross is the sequel, Chrono Cross is a wonderful game and incredible RPG (I would deem it actually best for PSX not counting the CT port)...

...heh...no, the CT port was terrible. CC wins on that one, but the SNES CT was a superior game.

I liked the battle system...except for the luck factor. I swear, I missed almost as much as I hit. My luck is terrible. But fighting was fun for me. Summoning was a little too hard, at least for the black and white ones, lacking black and white field elements (a fact which still pisses me off). And I didn't like how once a non-stock element was used, it was done for that battle. I missed MP.

[Darth Mongoose]

You can't deny something to be the sequal to something just because you don't like it. Personally, I wish that the matrix sequals had never been made (or had at least had decent plotlines) but I can't just say 'oh, they're not really sequals'.
Personally I like Radical Dreamers better as a sequal to CT, because I thought it was a wonderfully atmospheric and soulful game, wich wrapped up a few important things very efficiently. But I like to think of RD and CC as 'alternate sequals' a bit like how with the anime 'Evangelion' there are two different endings (the original series ending or 'End of Evangelion') and everybody has a favourite one, but it's not nessesarily the 'correct' ending.
CC was a good game, a lot of effort and thought had been put into it. Of course it's a different experience to CT, maybe a little too different for some people's tastes, but I liked it, and in fact, after reading the articles on this site, I came to appreciate it far more because I saw just how well it fit into the plotline and wrapped things up. I'd rather have Chrono Cross as a sqeual than some rushed out rehash of Chrono Trigger.

[SilentMartyr]

Reading these posts made me realize why we haven't heard or seen anything about a new Chrono game.

Some of the fans (however many is not calulatable) are not worthy yet, they don't appreciate Cross enough or Trigger enough. It frequently is one or the other. I mean look here in the Compendium, how many people love both games? A very select few. If I was SE which game would I continue first; the series that has millions of units sold everytime a continuation is released or a series that sold very well on its debut, and then had two lesser selling runs with fans that are not appreciative of every game in the series.

I would go with the game that sold more units and had the stronger fan base. I don't blame them, they are running a business. Until we as a community accept each and every game in the series we will never get what we truly want. Here is to hoping.

[Philosopher1701]

Chrono Cross, in terms of story and music, is far more superior to Chrono Trigger.

CC had a FANTASTIC STORY. It was brilliantly written. I bet more than half of the CT fanboys never even stopped to think whatever happened to Belthasar when he was pulled into the future. For those who did think about it, they may have realized that he would have ended up in the "good" future. Well, if that's so....... what would happen to him? What would he do? Would he continue studying time? Would he try to return to Zeal? Would he kick back and relax?

What about Schala? Did Magus ever find her? Did she survive the Ocean Palace incident? Was she pulled through a gate similar to the way the Gurus and Janus were?

Lavos? Was it really destroyed? It has the ability to manipulate time, so is it a possibility that it could come back? Are there others?

Most of all.......... What if Crono's influence in history spawned a negative consequence? How disasterous would this be?

Masato Kato obviously planned this story very meticulously. He wrote one of the most complicated and most profound time/dimension travelling stories I've ever seen.

[Sentenal]

Look, CC is CT's sequel. I generally look at CC as the story of Crono's janitor, cleaning up the mess from Crono's quest.

Wonderful, just how I would describe a disapointing game. Developers couldn't find enough time or creativity to work together a plausible story that wasn't as over the top as quantum physics, and instead they throw in 40 playable characters!!!

40 CHARACTERS????

And you can pretty much recruit anyone on the basis of anything you feel like.

"Hey Do you like fish?"
*YES*
"Oh hey! I like fish too! Why don't you let me fight with you!"

How does that make it any less of sequel.

I've said this to Zaper before, but you earned this time.  Give up.  You can't win.  CC is CT's sequel.

[Zaperking]

Look, CC is CT's sequel. I generally look at CC as the story of Crono's janitor, cleaning up the mess from Crono's quest.

Wonderful, just how I would describe a disapointing game. Developers couldn't find enough time or creativity to work together a plausible story that wasn't as over the top as quantum physics, and instead they throw in 40 playable characters!!!

40 CHARACTERS????

And you can pretty much recruit anyone on the basis of anything you feel like.

"Hey Do you like fish?"
*YES*
"Oh hey! I like fish too! Why don't you let me fight with you!"

How does that make it any less of sequel.

I've said this to Zaper before, but you earned this time.  Give up.  You can't win.  CC is CT's sequel.

It's fact that it is, but it wasn't intended and in the producers eyes isn't.
Also, the way you always do that only shows that you are a very arrogant person, no matter to who you're saying it to.

[JonnyCyo]

Ya Sentenal, you're a douche.
We can all agree on that, no matter how many criteria's CC makes as CT's sequal.
(Which i understand that theoretically it is now. Thanks to all the helpful examples and definitions from this page)

[Tonjevic]

What. The. Hell. Sentenal is correct, whatever you may say, and to slag him out about this, just because Zaper called him arrogant?
That is pretty precious if you ask me.
You are losing an argument that was uphill from the beginning, simply because it wasnt thought out. If you had given it some thought, you never would have posted, or at least given up long before now. Now that you see that you have lost, you resort to insults.
Again, it's pretty precious.

Oh, and Zaper has been wrong on many occasions. That's not to say that Sentenal hasnt either, but he is right in this argument. Zaper, saying that at first, it wasnt meant to be a sequel is dumb. Firstly, even if it WASNT meant as a sequel, it evolved into one. Secondly, I see nowhere in the quote cited by Zeality 'Chrono Cross was not meant to be a sequel to Chrono trigger.'
In fact it is quite the opposite, he states that RD was made to tie up some lose threads, and chrono Cross was an expanded version of the quest to tie up the plot.
Look back to silvercry's definitions, and we see that a sequel can be a continuation. What is this plot-repairal, if not continuation?

I have to say to both of you: Shut up.

Chrono Cross IS a sequel, whether you like it or not. And if you are too close-minded to see that, I will leave you to your misery.

[Zaperking]

What. The. Hell. Sentenal is correct, whatever you may say, and to slag him out about this, just because Zaper called him arrogant?
That is pretty precious if you ask me.
You are losing an argument that was uphill from the beginning, simply because it wasnt thought out. If you had given it some thought, you never would have posted, or at least given up long before now. Now that you see that you have lost, you resort to insults.
Again, it's pretty precious.

Oh, and Zaper has been wrong on many occasions. That's not to say that Sentenal hasnt either, but he is right in this argument. Zaper, saying that at first, it wasnt meant to be a sequel is dumb. Firstly, even if it WASNT meant as a sequel, it evolved into one. Secondly, I see nowhere in the quote cited by Zeality 'Chrono Cross was not meant to be a sequel to Chrono trigger.'
In fact it is quite the opposite, he states that RD was made to tie up some lose threads, and chrono Cross was an expanded version of the quest to tie up the plot.
Look back to silvercry's definitions, and we see that a sequel can be a continuation. What is this plot-repairal, if not continuation?

I have to say to both of you: Shut up.

Chrono Cross IS a sequel, whether you like it or not. And if you are too close-minded to see that, I will leave you to your misery.

Geez, if you don't know what we're talking about, don't post. You just lose your credibility by hastely posting.

I'm not saying CC is not a sequal. I'm agreeing upon it. But it's not my fault that you can't comprehend that i'm trying to say that the producers did not want and intend for CC to be a sequal.

Also, If you don't know what i'm talking about, stay out of it. Sentenal has no right to say to anyone "Give up. You lose. You can't win" etc. That isn't debating and isn't welcome. The compendium isn't here to put down peoples theories and push others forwards. It's equality so we can all have our say, and not feel threatened that our opinions are not thought about.

So stay out of other peoples business, and try to re-read what i say before posting a quick post.