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Ruby Raider

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Where Did lavos come from?
« on: February 13, 2006, 06:38:14 pm »
Well I was thinking where didi lavos come from?..
In the game just explain that he come from the space...
But wich planet, how, and exist others of lavos species...
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2006, 07:00:17 pm »
Noone really knows, Lavos could have come from a Lavosian homeworld, sent out on a recon mission.  Lavos could have been a monster who constantly devours worlds.  Lavos could be some being that ripped through dimensions and found this dimension and headed towards Earth... noone really knows that much...
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2006, 07:50:49 pm »
Its something to consider though. Something that adaptive and amazing boilogically has to have an origin. It's actual development as a creature is a bit of a mystery. Consider, if its species began on a planet what circumstances led the species to evolve into planetary parasites? I just suport the "best left unknown" idea that hell, Lavos could be lice from the backhair of a collosal spaceman named phil. To me, Lavos the creature is just another element of the grand design of the universe that exists to keep the cycle of life in motion. Life, death, revival and decay. Grand design yada yada.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2006, 08:40:03 pm »
That is an idea though. Maybe the Lavoids are like the Celestials from Marvel, creating conditions to evolve life on planets that catch their interest. Lavos could've caused the Apocalypse with no intentions of ACTUALLY reproducing or ACTUALLY destroying life on the planet, knowing full well that someone was going to avert the apocalypse by learning magic and proving humanity can evolve beyond him and break their dependance on his magic and evolutionary power.

Although the Time Devourer kinda messes that up, but otherwise you could neatly say the Entity and Lavos are one :D
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2006, 06:41:08 am »
If you bring Starky to the Frozen Flame at Terra Tower, he says:
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Starky:
   Woowzer!
   Out of this world...!
   The liight of the big baang!
   All starts from heere and
   all ends heere...
   What liies beeyond that...?

Some people theorized that somehow the Frozen Flame (with or without Lavos) was created at the same time and place as the whole universe, kinda like Xenogears's Zohar Engine. Someone here at the Compendium even theorized that the Frozen Flame and Lavos were 2 totally different entities, that somehow got merged or symbiotized together.

Of course, it could just be that the Frozen Flame shows Starky a vision which has nothing to do with its origin (like how Greco sees Ghetz, etc.).
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Where Did lavos come from?
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2006, 07:14:32 am »
I think the thing about Lavos that I really love is how mysterious it is, it's never really fully explained exactly what it is, where it came from or what motivates it. I think that makes it a rather terrifying creature. It's not like those villains who feel the need to follow the heroes around trying to stop them and failing, it just waits there, at the centre of the world.
It's just so alien to everything, it doesn't try to explain itself, justify itself or anything. Fantastic end boss!
Personally, I think Lavos is an extra-terrestrial entity that finds a world, feeds from it, gives birth to young and sends those spawn off to find worlds of their own when they are big enough, like an insect that lays it's eggs inside the body of another creature, but it does it with planets. That's just my little theory of course.
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2006, 07:16:17 pm »
Yeah Lavos is by far the coolest boss ever.  Its like fighting God.  You basically go up and face a massive entity who manipulated time and fate so that he would be an unstoppable being.   I mean how cool is that?  Its not retarded like Zeal who is all fanatical and crazy.  Lavos is just waiting, he knows what he is doing.
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2006, 07:24:36 pm »
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Starky:
Woowzer!
Out of this world...!
The liight of the big baang!
All starts from heere and
all ends heere...
What liies beeyond that...?


Lavos is GALACTUS!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2006, 11:43:38 am »
Quote from: AuraTwilight
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Starky:
Woowzer!
Out of this world...!
The liight of the big baang!
All starts from heere and
all ends heere...
What liies beeyond that...?


Lavos is GALACTUS!!!!!!!!!!


That wouldn't bode very well for the Chronoverse.
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2006, 01:05:56 am »
Sometimes I wonder if Lavos was man-made, and sent into space deliberately. Perhaps he went around the universe at such a speed he went back in time and then hit Azala's stronghold. This would explain why he has a humanoid final-form and seems somewhat bio-mechanical inside. For all we know, the final core could've been an oversized astronaut. Just a thought.
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2006, 03:37:37 pm »
Remember that Lavos took the DNA from every living being on the planet to create the ultimate life form for that planet. This is most of the reasoning behind the anatomy of the core.
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2006, 08:09:31 pm »
There is like a quote from I think every character except Crono about how he absorbed the DNA...
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2006, 09:16:57 pm »
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Robo: Amazing...
   It houses all the DNA of every
   creature that ever lived...!

Marle: It's...humanoid...

   It seems like it has collected all of
   the vitality from the creatures who
   have lived on this planet.

Lucca: Now I understand...

   It lives on a planet for as long as
   possible, stealing away the most vital
   resources...

   It combined the DNA it found here
   with its own, and gave birth to those
   creatures up on Death Peak.

   Eventually the young must migrate to
   other planets...to repeat the cycle...

Robo: This was Lavos's goal...!

   Using the DNA of every organism...

   And achieving the ultimate in
   evolution!

Frog: This be evil!

   Indeed! This thing possesseth the
   vitality of all living creatures...

   It hath harvested DNA from animals,
   only to further its own evolution!
   And whilst sleeping, to boot!


Yeah, most of the characters say something about it.
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2006, 03:47:13 am »
He always seemed to remind me of the Overmind from Starcraft (although not as cunning), who seems bent on eventually making it so that the only species in the universe is his own.
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2006, 01:30:19 am »
Me wonders how Frog understood the concept of DNA, him being someone from the middle ages.

I personally don't think there are multiple Lav- Lavo... Lavoses in the universe despite the fact Lavos reproduces. If so, each Lavoses would be capable of manipulating time, and time being a universal entity in the setting (if I'm not mistaken) time travellers would have detected them... I think.

Well, about Lavos' origin. Perhaps it's the final fate of the most advanced sentience in the universe (extra emphasis on "the most.") Being the most advanced sentience in the universe, they (or it) probably discovered a way to decode and integrate biological data of other living beings before anything else in the universe. They could create an omnipotent being with this, only if they could overcome one problem: lack of proper database. For this reason, they constructed Lavos (or transformed into Lavos) and started planet-jumping, collecting data and destroying them afterword, to prevent them from reaching the same point as the Lavos' creators has. During this process, the database has become so massive that the life form created by the integration could control time and space...

Or something. I think I lost myself somewhere. :(

Well, something to remember: The humanoid figure which the main characters fight is NOT Lavos. According to the final battle, Lavos core is the nipple thingy on the right of that figure. The figure probably is just a model of the most ideal life form created from the database...
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