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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2004, 07:25:11 pm »
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I have one issue with GrayLensman's Time Crash illumination; copies of Serge are destined to emerge from the Sea of Eden's Gate Effect, meaning the Serge who returned from the Time Devourer will be Time Bastarded by a bewildered Serge who has no idea what on earth is going on, as to him, he's still in the middle of Chrono Cross.

Perhaps Belthasar did some things to ensure this would not happen.


Entities are not sent into the DBT when they encounter a past or present version of themselves, but rather when two versions of an entity at the same point on their world lines exist simultaniously in the space-time continuum.

At least three versions of Serge exist in the unified timeline:

Serge A - who grew up in the unified timeline
Serge B - who fought the DT
Serge C - who journyed to the Sea of Eden

In 1020 AD, moments after Serge A collapses, Serge B will warp in and Serge A will be sent into the DBT.

Some time later, Serge C will appear outside the Sea of Eden.  He exists in the past of Serge B's world line so Time Bastard does not apply.  Serge C and B may meet with no consequence.

At the time when Serge B originally warped into the DBT, Serge C's world line will coincide with the past verison of Serge B (just as he warps in from the DBT).  Because Serge B is the more senior time-traveler at that point (farther along on his world line), Serge C will be sent into the DBT due to the TB effect.

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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2004, 08:43:39 pm »
Oh, of course; his seniority in Time Traveler's Immunity. Well, I'm glad that's wrapped up. Our next mystery is what happened to Kid/Schala.

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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2005, 02:16:54 pm »
We know why Schala erases Serge's memory so he doesn't merge with the time devourer in 11020 AD, Although What happens if you decide not to use the Crono Cross on the time devourer does that mean that Serge's memory is erased or not.

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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2005, 03:12:02 pm »
Why should Schala try to stop Serge from merging with the TD AFTER Serge destroyed the TD?

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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2005, 03:18:28 pm »
Then why does she erase serge's memory of his entire adventure because she wants him to grow up as if it never happen so he doesnt even know about the TD. Also unless the Crono Cross is used the TD could be reborn by lavos himself. Remember that the TD is a spilit off from lavos.

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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2005, 04:22:07 pm »
Lavos should becompletely destroyed after the events in Cross. I would be very confused if Lavos was present in the third game, unless it was between the events in Trigger and Cross.

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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2005, 07:07:58 pm »
well, technically Lavos is sleeping in the earth until 1999.

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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2005, 11:25:03 pm »
More like he's sleeping in it till 12,000BC then gets erased from his pocket dimension or whatever.

Anyway, Schala may not have erased Serge's memory only. If you have Leena, for instance in your party, she would have it erased too. The point here is that Schala wants Serge to live a normal life. Maybe Serge is Janus, maybe he reminds her of Janus. We don't know but theres some kind of connection there.

I don't think that Time bastard stuff works here because it's more dimensional. Besides, almost no time travelling is done in CC, so theres no change in time lines so you can't really have TD apply here. It's more like everything that happened after 1010 and 1020 was erased and remade in it's ideal way, without influences like FATE and the Dragon God's and stuff.