Why was Glenn a Frog instead of a ________?

[ChronoMagus]

Final Fantasy 1.

[Chrono'99]

Dragon Quest I to... VIII. All of them.

[CatchRBFivy]

I have the answer!  The reason Glenn is turned into a frog is because the frog is the guardian spirit of the hero medal.  I know this is BS but listen.  Glenn and Cyrus fight the frog king to get the hero medal in the first place.  Perhaps Magus has some sort of deal with the frog race to guard the hero medal and he turns Glenn into one because he has it now that Cyrus is dead.  Maybe being changed into a frog is the "curse of the hero medal"!  

Even though its a joke, its not that bad.  Right?

Now, a more serious thought.  Ozzie says something like "how about it, can we give him a more fitting form?"  Now to go along with this, Spekkio gives Frog the ability to use water magic which leads to his "ultimate" FROG squash attack so I think that either Spekkio also saw something deep inside Glenn's spirit or that he was just continuing the mokery started by Magus.  Glenn underestimates himself so much that he has little self-esteem and all this is manifested in a pitiful form, such as a gross little frog.  

So I guess what I mean is that, Glenn has no self-respect, Magus sees this, Spekkio sees, this, and a frog embodies this feeling Glenn has of himself.


This is my first post since the summer, there is so much good conversation I've missed since then![/i]

[AuraTwilight]

Or...it could just be what everyone else said with the whole Fairy Tale thing. Pulling stuff out of your bum is frowned upon.

[CatchRBFivy]

I like to think instead of just assuming people with high post counts know what is right and what is not.  There is nothing wrong with trying to connect similar themes in sometimes odd ways.  I've see that a lot of this forum, so how is it frowned upon.

[GrayLensman]

I like to think instead of just assuming people with high post counts know what is right and what is not.  There is nothing wrong with trying to connect similar themes in sometimes odd ways.  I've see that a lot of this forum, so how is it frowned upon.

Nevermind Aura, your theory is rather elegant.

[CatchRBFivy]

Its really not that good.  It just kinda popped in my head when reading about the frog king.  I mostly felt like making a goofy post about it, didn't think it would be so badly accepted by some.

[GrayLensman]

Its really not that good.  It just kinda popped in my head when reading about the frog king.  I mostly felt like making a goofy post about it, didn't think it would be so badly accepted by some.

If Glenn fights a giant frog, turns into a frog, and then summons another giant frog to attack people with, there might be some sort of correlation.

[Legend of the Past]

What other instances are there of Square[soft-enix] using fairytale-esque stories in games?

Just about EVERY mention of the Excalibur in the Square games. Tidus' Caladbolg in FFX is a mythical Scottish sword. Marle kissing Frog. And all the other things stated above by the other users.

[ChronoMagus]

Actually I have to give CatchRBFivy points for creativity.  I simply ignored the whole correlation with Frog King, Frog, and Frog Squash... That was a pretty obvious correlation to miss...

[Legend of the Past]

OR it could be both Fairy Tale theory and the Frog King-Glenn-Frog Squash thing together. Maybe Square made a mix of a fairy tale?

[sssssz]

Eh, chances are that the Frog King-Frog Glenn-Frog Squash thing derived from the fairy tale idea... Seen from a writer's point of view, I wonder what's there to be argued about, or something.

Ah well.

[GrayLensman]

OK, I've got some ideas.  Could the frog theme coincide with a kami, spirit, or animal totem associated with Glenn?  Could Glenn's inner anguish and self doubt have taken the form of a frog after the confrontation with the Frog King, resulting in his appearance and abilities?

[CatchRBFivy]

Gray, a quick google search will tell you a lot about how they are associated with the water or thunder element, blah blah blah, but I found one very interesting interpertation of this (from only one site because I don't have quite enough time to delve)

As in mythology, modern shamanism links the frog to earth and to water and its cleansing, healing and creative powers. Frog medicine can help you to refresh and renew yourself, clear up your emotions, become more sensitive to others, and even to dive deep into your unconscious and maybe carry some truth found there up to the surface. Frogs also teach a connection with the earth and evrything on it, and the ability to see the magic and beauty behind it all. Because of its famous croaking voice, it can also teach how to use your voice to stir emotions.

http://www.dierinbeeld.nl/animal_files/reptiles_amphibians/frogs_toads/index.html

The part about cleansing seems quite relavent to Glenn's character, in accordance with the Masamune.  And on a less important level, the part about your voice could go along with him having a psuedo-shakespearian accent.

No point in elaboration any further, you see what I mean I'm sure.

Of course its only google, try searching a little more and see if it is true.

[Erindar]

Hey thats kinda a cool little point.  I think its a mix of everything.  Square decided that a fairy tale thing would be a good idea.  Then the script writers added in the stuff with the frog king frog squash.  And they gave him characteristics of a frog like the above poster stated.

At least thats my theory.  What the heck do I know.