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« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2006, 07:42:24 pm »
Presidents have been hated for a long time. Martin Van Buren was lampooned as the slippery oak. Herbert Hoover was completely loathed since people attributed the Great Depression to his presidency. And Clinton has his fair share of hate, too, and it has many facets (that he was elected by women, the Lewinsky scandal, etc.)

Just once I'd like to get someone who appears remotely intelligent. Clinton and Bush both suffer from a sort of drawl and doofus syndrome. You could at least tell that the cogs were turning in their predecessors.

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« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2006, 07:44:44 pm »
God I hate it how leaders get away with everything. Our own Johnny got away with being in the whole AWB wheat scandal kickbacks Saddam Hussein thingy. Does anyone actually know about it? Does anyone know that he was actually, in paper, part of the whole thing?

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« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2006, 07:50:36 pm »
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God I hate it how leaders get away with everything. Our own Johnny got away with being in the whole AWB wheat scandal kickbacks Saddam Hussein thingy. Does anyone actually know about it? Does anyone know that he was actually, in paper, part of the whole thing?


beyond my education . . . probably mixed by the media, like everything else is

how important was it?

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« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2006, 07:53:51 pm »
Well Australia isn't exactly the pinnacle of excitement and controversy...so for us, very, for everyone else, not very.
And what about that Tri Nation coup against China? (kidding kidding :P) I wanna stir of disrupt! Hahahah!

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« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2006, 09:24:06 pm »
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Bush is the President. Everyone knows who he is, and most of his decisions wind up being under a lot of public scruitiny. If Bush were a genius, the amount of jokes would be no different than they are now.


Sorry in advance for being phil-hellenic again and bringing up all this ancient stuff...
But just to support what you said there, this has been going on for thousands of years. Something like Aristophane's 'Clouds' makes fun of Socrates, lumping him together with the Sophists, and really giving him a bad overall image. He's shown as thinking himself clever, and winning arguments through silly little quirks of logic. Likely, this is just a total joke of what the real Socrates would have been. Now, I've not read any other of those comedies, but I know there's a tendancy to make fun of prominant politicians over and over again. As you said, politicians (and anyone in the public view) is perfect for it. It was happening back then, and it's happening now.

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« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2006, 04:24:05 am »
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Just once I'd like to get someone who appears remotely intelligent. Clinton and Bush both suffer from a sort of drawl and doofus syndrome. You could at least tell that the cogs were turning in their predecessors.

Clinton was one of the most intelligent presidents we've ever had, and perhaps the most politically savvy--certainly in the top tier. You're probably too young to have followed the news during his administration, but his smarts were never in questino. Easily the smartest president since Nixon.

Also, Clinton was even more reviled than Dubya has been--especially in the media. The Republicans despised this man; his presidency coincided with the rise of the Christ Gestapo in the GOP, and for reasons I still don't understand today, they simply reviled him. After the Lewinsky scandal broke, the poor man was hounded around the clock by the media, and was the butt of more jokes than you can shake a stick at.

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« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2006, 04:30:08 am »
I certainly never liked Clinton. I don't really care what anyone says about personal morality having nothing to do with being President, I don't want someone who has bad ones leading my country.

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« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2006, 04:51:46 am »
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I certainly never liked Clinton. I don't really care what anyone says about personal morality having nothing to do with being President, I don't want someone who has bad ones leading my country.

Fortunately for you, Clinton left office five years ago. Unfortunately for you and for us all, the next guy's morals have proven about as pure as unicorn farts.

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« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2006, 04:55:30 am »
Never said I was proud of Bush either, did I?  The wheel's spinning, but the hamster's dead if you understand my meaning.

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« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2006, 04:56:14 am »
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Never said I was proud of Bush either, did I?  The wheel's spinning, but the hamster's dead if you understand my meaning.

You're one of those conservatives who isn't batshit insane, I see. Welcome to the Compendium! ^_^

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« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2006, 04:59:41 am »
Welcome back you mean? Meh, it's just as well. I'm very different from the poster I was before.

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« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2006, 05:00:31 am »
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Welcome back you mean? Meh, it's just as well. I'm very different from the poster I was before.

How so? Anything interesting? 'Cause this board could really use it...

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« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2006, 05:05:32 am »
Well I'll give it a shot. I can't promise much, but I think I'll be able to understand half of what gets said here this time. :P

Oh, that and I have a habit of liking theories that don't have much fact, but are really, really cool. But that's just me.

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« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2006, 05:55:21 am »
Clinton was a more presentable president, but many, if not all, of his work outside this nation seem to have meant dick. He had good intentions, and worked hard to bring about those essentially useless treaties. I give him credit for that. I don't really call him all that smart, or politically ept (his political advisors had a fantastic job...>_<), but neither is Bush.

Frankly, I miss George Washington, John Adams, and Thomas Jefferson.

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« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2006, 02:48:40 pm »
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Frankly, I miss George Washington, John Adams, and Thomas Jefferson.


wat about Abe??