Another theory about Lavos that MAY be interesting

[AuraTwilight]

Crono and co. were able to defeat Lavos with their wit, intelligence, strength, magic, resources, and teamwork. They earned their championship belt in the "Survival of the Fittest" Tournament of Life.

[ChronoMagus]

Exactly... it was Lavos' fault for misanalyzing the situation and not paying attention the fact that a couple of time travelling teenagers were correcting history...  its kind of hard to miss you know.  What happened to Lavos is like a person too lazy to get diagnosed for a disease.  He ignores until it finally becomes too strong to stop and then dies.

[Zaperking]

Exactly... it was Lavos' fault for misanalyzing the situation and not paying attention the fact that a couple of time travelling teenagers were correcting history...  its kind of hard to miss you know.  What happened to Lavos is like a person too lazy to get diagnosed for a disease.  He ignores until it finally becomes too strong to stop and then dies.

How the hell do we know. That could in itself be a plothole. Lavos realises that he has to destroy 1999AD and Zeal, and he traverses all of time and space, and yet he didn't see it coming. And it only realises it's death.. after it dies.. WTF.

[Magus22]

i guess that's kinda what i meant to say

but with all this stated, couldn't Lavos have created additional time gates and scatter Crono and Co in which Lavos was basically protecting itself from potential harm

What happened to Lavos is like a person too lazy to get diagnosed for a disease.

was he simply in lazy mode then

[Burning Zeppelin]

Or maybe its just that Lavos doesnt expect human beings that came 999 years before him, or more, to come attack him. That and he did almost kill everyone, so its kinda weird to see some people there

[JossiRossi]

How about this,

Lavos is in his own little world. If you accept him being in a pocket dimension this is taken litterally. He has little concern for the actions of his "food" he doesn't watch the pen so to speak. Then one day Lavos is just sucking power from the earth which is all he does and all of a sudden he starts to feel something draining his energy. It nagged him before, but now it was downright obvious and perhaps reached a point where they sucked out more energy than he took in. So he got pissed and made a huge ass tidal wave. This is not a concentrated attack remember, this reshaped the earth entirely, it affected the whole thing. It just so happened that Zeal was taken down with it. Now the Mammon Machine isn't supporting all the Zealians and Queen Zeal likely uses a limited portion of it's power for herself.

Then Lavos again continues to not watch the pen. He gets what he wants and in 1999 AD ruins the planet and makes it ready for his children to grow in.

The simple fact is that Lavos simply did not care what we did, do you REALLY think that the cows are going to rise up and destory mankind? No, but then again are we LOOKING for it? You can't prove they aren't. Similar idea.

[Burning Zeppelin]

It depends. Do you believe that Lavos is working on instict (like cows) or reason (like humans, and ubercool apes in space)?

[JossiRossi]

It depends. Do you believe that Lavos is working on instict (like cows) or reason (like humans, and ubercool apes in space)?

I used to believe he had some kind of brain going on, but how he acts, he really doesn't seem to do any sort of pre-planning. At best he reacts to stimuli, but he never seems to anticipate that stimuli.

Where as if he were thinking he'd have thought, hey these Zealians are draining power from and they are CLEARLY building a huge ass undersea base for something and it happens to be close to me, that and since I'm pretty powerful, apparently, I'm catching some intense crazy bitch vibes from that Queen Zeal lady.

He only acts AFTER the fact, never before. Prevention is a good indicator that someone is thinking ahead of the fact.

[GrayLensman]

Does a human being react consciously to the actions of bacteria within his body?

Lavos's consciousness is on an entirely different level than humans, and their actions are beneath its notice.  It is only when humans sufficiently harm Lavos, such as by activating the Ocean Palace, that it perceives the threat and reacts accordingly.

[Burning Zeppelin]

I've always thought of Lavos as a virus. Comes, infects, breeds, dies.

[Radical_Dreamer]

I've always thought of Lavos as a virus. Comes, infects, breeds, dies.

What exactly does it infect? The Planet? Not at all. Lavos is clearly a parasite, not a virus. If Lavos were akin to a virus, it would have saturated the planet with Lavos spawns and detonated the planet, launching them out in to the cosmos.

[Zaperking]

I've always thought of Lavos as a virus. Comes, infects, breeds, dies.

What exactly does it infect? The Planet? Not at all. Lavos is clearly a parasite, not a virus. If Lavos were akin to a virus, it would have saturated the planet with Lavos spawns and detonated the planet, launching them out in to the cosmos.

He's a good parasite though. Without him, there would be no humans. Schala made this very clear with the whole spermatoza thing. Without him, Humans would not be at their stage or anything, they wouldn't be special since they would not be a thing torn by love and hate and other things. The savior is also the thing that would ruin the planet. But then again, the planet was closer to the dragonians anyway.

Also, the thing that bothers me is this.
The Black Omen was not damaged in the Destruction Rains in 1999AD. That may mean it's not just there. Also, the fact that in 2300AD, Queen Zeal sees the Earth all ruined and doens't really care. So, what does she want to be the Queen of if the planet is destroyed, and Lavos will die? This kind of shows that she is more in tune with him, and maybe Lavos will go away, and she will with him and be eternal with him.

Also, I don't think Lavos was like "OMG, this Zeal Queen bitch is sucking my energy". It may have been that the flame was being drained to much and the dreamstone had a bad reaction with it. Remember, the flame has more power than that and if it had evolved humans, and raised their society for all this time, then obviously energy was used in the process, and not a little amount. As I said, the reaction with the Dreamstone and Schala's fainting could have done something to the flame to activate Lavos' thing. Heck, even the gate produced could have been a safety measure for the arbiter to live.

[Magus22]

It may have been that the flame was being drained to much and the dreamstone had a bad reaction with it.

r u referring to the frozen flame here?

i thought us humans didn't come into contact with it (obviously after Lavos crashing into planet) later on . . .

[GreenGannon]

I've always thought of Lavos as a virus. Comes, infects, breeds, dies.

Sort of along the vein of Jenova, then?

[Zaperking]

It may have been that the flame was being drained to much and the dreamstone had a bad reaction with it.

r u referring to the frozen flame here?

i thought us humans didn't come into contact with it (obviously after Lavos crashing into planet) later on . . .

The Frozen Flame was found in 3,000,000BC (somewhere around that time), and triggered the evolution of the human's brain's x3. Then the Flame was kept inside the Mammon Machine as a link to draw energy from Lavos.