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Global warming is...

Real! =(
16 (76.2%)
Real, but totally not a problem. (Sorry Tuvalu.)
3 (14.3%)
A practical means of boosting our global fish stocks.
2 (9.5%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Voting closed: March 14, 2006, 03:53:10 pm

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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2006, 01:43:00 am »
Someone asked about consequences. Ice sheets in Antarctica and Greenland are melting. Big whup, you say, it's just ice. Except that it will change the temperature of the oceans. Aquatic animals are more sensitive to temperature change than terrestrial animals, so we could see some serious damage to the aquatic ecosystem. Why do you care? Because that's where 70% of the oxygen in our atmosphere comes from. Without it, we die. Ooops. Not to mention, green house gasses aren't exactly good on the lungs, either.

There's technology in place to help curb emissions significantly. Hell, 99% reduction in auto emissisons (gas, diesel, biodiesel, whatever) can be achieved with a machine that runs on water. Mind you, it's too big for passenger cars at the moment, but they're working on it.

It's a problem, we know it's a problem, and we know what can be done to help fix it, or at least manage the damage. Good thing the governments of the world honestly care about human life. Oh. Well, shit then.

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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2006, 04:20:58 am »
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Better join the Navy.


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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2006, 10:26:14 am »
A lot of people (here) have an oppinion like: "If it won't happen during our lifespan, we don't care"(=|=Crono) Of course, the first results of this stuff(the world becomes even hotter cuz of humans intervention) are already seen, like a very hot summer or even a very warm winter. Most people don't care, and this is really sad. If more people would care, and work together, we(humanity) MAY lower the extrem consequenzes.
Whatever, some politicians seem to use this as their advantage saying "vote for us and we will stop it" and crap...using the planets and our misery as an advantage is kinda egoistic.
I don't think anything significant will happen until something really bad happens, and than it will probably be to late...
Very few seem to care.

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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2006, 01:23:09 pm »
I don't know many facts about global warming, but I do know a few.

1) There are people flipping out, because we won't be able to survive on a planet that's 10,000 hotter than it is now.

2) The overall temperature of the earth has risen some ridiculously low number, something like 1 degree, over the last 30 years.

Now think about this for a second.  If the Eath's temperature raises 10,000 degrees, will it kill us off?  Well, if it hapenned TOMORROW, yes.  But it's not.  It raising about 1 degree (and I'll give some benefit of the doubt here) every 10 years.  Guess what?  We can adapt and evolve to that, very easily.  It shouldn't be a problem.

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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2006, 03:25:18 pm »
I don't think the real problem is about we dieing because it's too hot, but because the planet getting hotter a few degrees, the poles might melt qand stuff, this would mean a radical rise of the ocean surface and stuff(can't remember the exact stuff we discussed at school :/  was about 4 years ago)

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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2006, 04:19:11 pm »
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I don't know many facts about global warming, but I do know a few.

1) There are people flipping out, because we won't be able to survive on a planet that's 10,000 hotter than it is now.

2) The overall temperature of the earth has risen some ridiculously low number, something like 1 degree, over the last 30 years.

Now think about this for a second.  If the Eath's temperature raises 10,000 degrees, will it kill us off?  Well, if it hapenned TOMORROW, yes.  But it's not.  It raising about 1 degree (and I'll give some benefit of the doubt here) every 10 years.  Guess what?  We can adapt and evolve to that, very easily.  It shouldn't be a problem.


You are not very well informed.

During the last ice-age, the average temperature was only 10ºC cooler than the present.  An average increase in temperature of only a few degrees would have a significant impact on the earth's climate.

The problem is not that people will drop dead due to global warming, but that it will cause sea level rise, drought, more frequent and intense storms, and the spread of infectious diseases.

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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2006, 02:58:36 am »
Seen Day After Tomorrow? Time to move to Mexico, Americans.

...shit, life's gonna suck now.

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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2006, 03:00:49 am »
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The problem is not that people will drop dead due to global warming, but that it will cause sea level rise, drought, more frequent and intense storms, and the spread of infectious diseases.


Boo-hoo.  Evolve and grow some more hair for warmth, or maybe some ills or something.

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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2006, 03:34:29 am »
Thank you Lord J! Finally some action on the boards!
I've always wondered how people could not believe in Global Warming. It is no longer a theory; it is fact. Last year (a day after I left Australia) the temperature rose to 46C. 46! Can you imagine that! And in Europe, all those people that died of heat strokes? I doubt that number of people die each year, just because of a normal change in temperature.
Yes Dewey, we will adapt sooner or later; but will the planet? Will the properties of ice just change to adapt to the rising heat levels? No? Good work! Have you heard of the droughts here? Some "professional scientists" (hey that guy looked stoned!) say that "its normal, and the low temperatures before were just abnormal" but of course it is a blatant lie.

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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2006, 09:07:52 am »
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Boo-hoo.  Evolve and grow some more hair for warmth, or maybe some ills or something.


Are you serious?

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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2006, 11:03:03 am »
i thought maturity level on this board was established

uncalled for

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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2006, 12:23:55 pm »
yvan eht nioj!

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« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2006, 12:54:15 pm »
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Yes Dewey, we will adapt sooner or later; but will the planet? Will the properties of ice just change to adapt to the rising heat levels? No? Good work! Have you heard of the droughts here? Some "professional scientists" (hey that guy looked stoned!) say that "its normal, and the low temperatures before were just abnormal" but of course it is a blatant lie.


The planet will survive, I assure you of that.  If you don't remember... well none of us do, but the planet WAS once nothing but a giant boiling lava, magma-flowing, volcano-erupting firey pit of hell.  And it was also a nicely ice-covered tundra.  So, the planet is going to survive, I assure you of that.  The question is are we going to be able to adapt to it.

And Grey, that wasn't an attack, it was more just of a "funny" post.  I'm obviously not serious in the slightest bit.

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« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2006, 07:34:54 pm »
I've always wondered... say all the polar ice caps and all were to melt, what would be the rise in sea-level? I mean, it certainly will not be the sort of catastrophe as in a movie like Waterworld, of course, but what's the worst-case scenario of sea-level rise? Just curious.

Now, of course global warming's a fact - both natural and artifical are contributing to it. Right now, I'm living in a place that bases it's economy on fossil fuels, and I'm not totally happy with it. For one, it's non-renewable, and some time down the road, years or decades, it's going to be gone, and this area's going to go from wealthy enough to hand out properity cheques to its people, to poor, in a matter of months. But secondly, it's for this very reason: our prosperity is based on something that is rather damaging. Yet another reason I don't really want much to do with my Engineering, and especially not with anything in the fossil fuels industry.

Now, about the fossil fuels, the most annoying thing is that we ship half of ours down to the US. What? Why? WE are the ones who need it. How many states (save Alaska) have an average annual temperature of 4 degrees Celsius. Californians aren't going to freeze to death if they lost their power - we here can when it drops down to 40 C below... and it does! As such, we need those fossil fuels for the time being, but they're being shipped to the US! Anyway, that's a side-rant. The point is, fossil fuels are helpful, and they've led to the wealth here... but it's had its cost as well. The sooner we can do something else (say, self-sufficient homes) switch to it. It's not worth the cost. It may be late, but late's better than never as they say.

Oh, and about Global Warming in particular... it's not just the warm weather that's the problem. It's just messed up weather. It didn't snow this year until February here. It was hovering around 0C. January is high winter, and our average was what, 10C higher than usual, with far less snow? That can't be good. Messing with weather patterns... not a good idea. So I'll vote for it being a problem.

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« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2006, 07:53:19 pm »
m happy that that hole in the ozone is doing good

if that fails . . . lol, well, u can kiss some life on this planet good bye