Harle

[Legend of the Past]

Somehow, I feel most people don't take Harle for what she really is. She's a much deeper character then people would realize.

Firstly, many people debate that she is another clone of Schala. That makes sense because of a few reasons:

1. She gets the same fortune telling as Kid, a comfirmed clone.
2. She was made by the Dragons. Now, the Dragons had access to only three life forms: One is Lavos. Making a Lavoid clone would totally mess up their plan, because FATE would have it terminated at once. Same for a Dragon clone, once FATE realizes there's another Dragon, she'd of had it killed. Hence you only have a human left. That human is Schala, the only human the Dragons had access to.

Now, another matter is how deep she is. Her situation is a very painful one: She's a Dragon AND a human. She's half and half of two races that cannot co-exist, thus she has an internal conflict. There's also the matter of Serge-she cannot disobey the Dragons, but she loves him profoundly. That's why if you choose to say you'd choose her over the world, she won't believe you. She ridicules herself and hates herself very, very much. To her, her very life is a joke. That's why she's dressed as a jester, she doesn't just want to hide her identity, she thinks of herself as a person cursed by destiny. Either way she cannot win, and every true emotion she might have at anyone won't matter. Fate mocks her, and that's why she dresses up as a clown.

[Magus22]

this is interesting because i never really kno the backround of Harle

a couple questions for u or any1 else if u could answer them . . .


so she COULD be a clone of Schala, do u think she is?

wat was her purpose again for being created and sent out?

y does she love Serge so much?

[Chrono'99]

Her lack of faith is disturbing though. She was created by the Dragons, but she's not mind-controlled by them like Lynx is mind-controlled by FATE. She could have rebelled against the Dragons, revealed the truth early to Serge, and join him! Her mission was to free the Dragons, well if she would disobey then the Dragons wouldn't be freed: either they wouldn't be able to do anything against her (since they're sealed), or they would be able to for some reason but Serge would help Harle fight them...

[Legend of the Past]

It's not unlikely to assume that Harle has some link with the Dragons. Not mind controlled, no. Then again, it might have been in her nature from her 'birth'-Never disobey the Dragons.

so she COULD be a clone of Schala, do u think she is?

Certainly. If you connect the evidence and work with logic, it makes perfect sense. Up to you to believe it, but there is also the fact they have the same height (Though that could be coinsidence) and their bodies seem somewhat alike as in hip size, they're both slender, etc etc.

wat was her purpose again for being created and sent out?

Take the Flame from FATE once she falls so the humans once She (FATE) falls.

y does she love Serge so much?

Could be just random love. But it could be she feels compassion for him, him being a pawn of Lavos, like her. Of course, if the Dragons had some kind of personality traits injected into her when she was born, it's not unlikely that they made her feel love for Serge. If the Dragons gave that specific command is anyone's guess.

[AuraTwilight]

I personally think Harle loves Serge because he's the only person who ever cared about her, or even gave two licks of a camel's tongue about her as a person instead of her as a tool.

[Magus22]

this is becoming more clearer, thanks a lot Legend

1 more question if u can . . . in CC, Harle seemed to hav some relation to that new red moon next our regular moon

this is somethin i had trouble understanding . . . but i think i jus didn't let it bother me as soon as she left my party on Fargo's ship

wat was the connection with Harle and the "dark moon" again?

[Zaperking]

I personally think Harle loves Serge because he's the only person who ever cared about her, or even gave two licks of a camel's tongue about her as a person instead of her as a tool.

Yes, I think it may be that way too.

this is becoming more clearer, thanks a lot Legend

1 more question if u can . . . in CC, Harle seemed to hav some relation to that new red moon next our regular moon

this is somethin i had trouble understanding . . . but i think i jus didn't let it bother me as soon as she left my party on Fargo's ship

wat was the connection with Harle and the "dark moon" again?

Harle is the Dragon of The Dark Moon. You see, there never was a dark moon. It was either her creation that made it come into existance, or that when Dinopolis came into our world, until Harle was created, the moon was invisible. Personally, I think it appeared when Harle was created, and may be an image from Dinopolis, but did not come with Dinopolis. Otherwise that means Dinopolis would have come into our world with not only itself, but it's sea, it's sky and space to have a moon, and if the moon reflects their dimension, then the red glow could be reflecting off their surface, as if the reptitie dimension is in chaos.

Eitherway, she is Dark Moon Dragon and she has some relation to it, down to her powers.

[DeweyisOverrated]

Harle has actually always been my favorite chatacter in CC, for those very reasons.  She IS a deep character, possibly the deepest.  Everyone else's emotion's are more or less traightforward, whereas Harle's are usually masked, but you can read them if you really look into it.

Jus out of curiosity, could someone tell me how she speaks in the Japanese verson?  I'm not really sure how you make someone sound "french" through japanese text, although I'm assuming she doesn't even have a "french" personality in that version.

[Legend of the Past]

Harle is the Dragon of The Dark Moon. You see, there never was a dark moon. It was either her creation that made it come into existance, or that when Dinopolis came into our world, until Harle was created, the moon was invisible.

Seeing as how you never see the CC world prior to Harle's creation, this theory holds no relevence, because there is abosloutoly NO evidence that supports it. Unless you have some way to prove you're an authority over the plot of Chrono... And I'm talking Kato level.

Harle is the Dragon of the Dark Moon. She uses powers that are symoblic to it, but Harle isn't dependent on the moon, and nor is the moon dependent on her. Saying she draws power from it is false- it only appears at night, and Harle can still use all her Techs during day time as well. One could argue that although it's not visible, the Dark Moon is still there. Now, take for example the Fire Dragon- He uses fire, but once you kill him (As both the Dragon and the Dragon God), there is still fire in the world. And fire was very much visible before his arrival at CC's dimesnion. Same for Harle-she uses powers symbolic to those of the moon, but she doesn't draw power from it (How can you draw power from  a MOON? It's not a source of energy) but if the moon would ever disappear, I doubt it would mean instant death for her.

[GrayLensman]

Now, take for example the Fire Dragon- He uses fire, but once you kill him (As both the Dragon and the Dragon God), there is still fire in the world.

Technically, the Dragon God was only destroyed along with the Time Devourer when Serge used the Chrono Cross.

Obviously, the Dragons harness the forces of nature, but they are not the source of those forces.  It is also doubtful that the Dragons have any connection to the astronomical objects they are associated with.

A valid question would be whether the Elements continue to function after the Dragon God is destroyed.

[Legend of the Past]

Seeing as they functioned BEFORE he came to the dimension, I can take a guess and say they would function AFTER he dies.

Also note the true Dragon God doesn't really exist in the dimension, only the Tesseract. Hence, he should have no effect over the planets that represent it.

[Zaperking]

That's why I said that the Moon must have either come into existance when Dinopolis came or when Harle was created, since it didn't exist there in CT, nor in Belthasar's dimension, and as I said earlier, it'd be very strange if Terra Tower and it's moon came to us, without the land or sea doing so aswell...

Also, I had always thought that the FMV of Harle jumping out of the moon or whatever in the begining (not literally but symbolically) meant something. Like if that was 1006AD, on the night of the storm, I'd imagine Harle to appear out of some dark vortex, and since she has relevance to that moon, it'd look as if shes appearing from it, which might be true since they're both connected somehow.

The thing here is that even though she is called the 7th, missing Dark Dragon of the Moon, it's not as if it's explained any furthur as to how that makes her special, or why she is so tied up in it.

Though, I never said she was dependant on it. I did once think that the moon was her representation in the world, like those stars and normal moon.

But one thing for sure, the Dragons are the incarnations of the Planet's power. And they are from the Reptite Dimension. Heck, The Dark Moon may be reflecting the Reptite Dimension and how it is in chaos without the Dragon God if it was to be a projection.

[Legend of the Past]

That's why I said that the Moon must have either come into existance when Dinopolis came or when Harle was created, since it didn't exist there in CT, nor in Belthasar's dimension, and as I said earlier, it'd be very strange if Terra Tower and it's moon came to us, without the land or sea doing so aswell...

OR it just came in 12,000 B.C., roughly 5000 years after Belthasar had been in Zeal. It wasn't in CT because Dinopolis never arrived, and Dinopolis' arrival dragged the Dark Moon from the Reptite Dimension.

Also, I had always thought that the FMV of Harle jumping out of the moon or whatever in the begining (not literally but symbolically) meant something. Like if that was 1006AD, on the night of the storm, I'd imagine Harle to appear out of some dark vortex, and since she has relevance to that moon, it'd look as if shes appearing from it, which might be true since they're both connected somehow.

This is in fact a personal matter, how Harle appeared. I would imagine her sort of phasing into reality, with an 18 year old body, naked. She might have come into existence through a vortex, too. But, if you look at why I theorised she wears a costume, you'll see she coulden't have jumped off with her Jester clothes on. Keep in mind, that part wasn't in the game, and you see the regular moon in the background, not the Dark Moon.

But one thing for sure, the Dragons are the incarnations of the Planet's power. And they are from the Reptite Dimension. Heck, The Dark Moon may be reflecting the Reptite Dimension and how it is in chaos without the Dragon God if it was to be a projection.

Not quiet. They're not an incarnation, they're a weapon. They control the elements, using nature, mother earth, to strike their foes down. Now, the Dark Moon could of just gotten dragged into the Dimension along with Dinopolis when the Planet sent them to 7600 B.C.

[Magus22]

i like both theories and ideas

i agree with the part in which Harle simply didn't come out of a vortex dressed as a Jester

but if u go back up to Legend's first post, it does make a lot of sense on how she would be such a pitied character because of her purpose on this world

if she was created, when and where being unknown, she would've come out like the Terminator or the T-X   ....yea anyways, i mean right?

perhaps Harle will return in the next Chrono game??

[Namara]

I think Harle is the most interesting character in CC because he past is so shadowed and so are her motives.  She's liked for the same reason that Magus is liked in CT because very little is known about their history and can be completely up to interpretation.

Personally when I played the game, I got the impression that she was a creation by the dragon gods during the storm so that they could have someone on the other side working to release them.

As for the dark moon, I always thought that its orbit made it so that it was always behind the white moon, and during the time of CC, the orbital position was such that the dark moon could now be visible.