Dreamstone, a naturally occuring substance?

[Sentenal]

For one, I never said that that particular piece of Dreamstone fell from Lavos himself.  I said it might have been dropped by a different passing Lavoid.  Of course I know it's impossible for the Dreamstone to reach the Planet before Lavos did if it came from him.  I was just saying it could have been shed by a completely different Lavoid as he hurtled through space some amount of light years away.

Prove Lavos isn't the first of his kind.  You can't prove it either way.  Explain how a piece of a Lavoid would just break off and travel to Earth.  If its in Space, and it doesn't crash into something, nothing is going to break off.  These two things make your entire arguement hinge on speculation.

Here is the main problem with the idea that Dreamstone comes from Lavoids.  It's a very strong possibility that Lavos' Shell is made of Dreamstone, and therefore the Frozen Flame is made of Dreamstone.  We know what the Frozen Flame is;  a shard of Lavos.  Now, if Dreamstone on Earth had come from Lavos, or any Lavoid (assuming that the said Lavoid is equal to Lavos), then they would all be shards of Lavos.  Then the next step in logic would be that all Dreamstone that had splintered off Lavos (which is what your saying) are Frozen Flames, which is just not true.

[ChronoMagus]

Lavos spines dont need to be Dreamstone.  The Frozen Flame could have been formed with one of Lavos' spines smashing into the Dreamstone, fusing, and forming this refined version.  Besides... I still don't get how another Lavoid would break it off... There is no wind or air resistance, and I doubt some sort of asteroid had enough force to break off a chunk. Dreamstone is part of the Earth.  For whatever reason in 65 mil bc humans did not have abudance, later they get abundance.

[AuraTwilight]

Why does a piece of Dreamstone need to fuse with the Frozen Flame? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the whole argument? It becomes redundant and you realize "Hey wait. I'm pulling a bunch of crap speculation out of my political donkey because a couple rocks are the same color. DEE "

[Magus22]

Anyone who thinks Dreamstone and the FF has any correlation is wrong. They are two seperate things. One being like garnet and one being foreign to this planet.

[Legend of the Past]

For one, I never said that that particular piece of Dreamstone fell from Lavos himself.  I said it might have been dropped by a different passing Lavoid.  Of course I know it's impossible for the Dreamstone to reach the Planet before Lavos did if it came from him.  I was just saying it could have been shed by a completely different Lavoid as he hurtled through space some amount of light years away.

Prove Lavos isn't the first of his kind.  You can't prove it either way.  Explain how a piece of a Lavoid would just break off and travel to Earth.  If its in Space, and it doesn't crash into something, nothing is going to break off.  These two things make your entire arguement hinge on speculation.

Here is the main problem with the idea that Dreamstone comes from Lavoids.  It's a very strong possibility that Lavos' Shell is made of Dreamstone, and therefore the Frozen Flame is made of Dreamstone.  We know what the Frozen Flame is;  a shard of Lavos.  Now, if Dreamstone on Earth had come from Lavos, or any Lavoid (assuming that the said Lavoid is equal to Lavos), then they would all be shards of Lavos.  Then the next step in logic would be that all Dreamstone that had splintered off Lavos (which is what your saying) are Frozen Flames, which is just not true.

It's all nice and dandy, Sentenal, but Dreamstone was present on Earth present to Lavos' landing.

[Sentenal]

Point?  Iron is present on Earth, yet it is present else where in the universe.  Just because Dreamstone formed naturally on Earth, doesn't mean it won't form naturally else where.  And then there is the idea that the Frozen Flame is made of Dreamstone, and that the Frozen Flame is part of Lavos.  This isn't my theory, btw, but it was discussed, and I've come to like it.

[Magus22]

Point?  Iron is present on Earth, yet it is present else where in the universe.  Just because Dreamstone formed naturally on Earth, doesn't mean it won't form naturally else where.

Sentenal is dead on. The only reason we have a moon in orbit is because something collided with the Earth (possibly an asteroid or some huge ass rock) and kicked up vast quantities of debris which eventually settled into an orbit around the planet. Over millions and millions of years, Earth once had a ring around it and the boulder sized debris orbitting the Earth eventually became the moon over a long period of time.

I am confused as to why people want a piece of the moon to displace in their shelf. I can simply go out into my yard and hold up the same compounds and materials without having to blast myself into space with a pick and shovel. The moon has nothing different and much less than the Earth has.

[Burning Zeppelin]

For all we know, Dreamstone is amber. That, or it is linked with meteorite worship

Amber doesn't grant magical powers, absorb energy, conduit elemental forces, and give birth to four-dimensional dream sprites.

Maybe your stupid crappy inferior amber doesn't.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon#Origin_and_history or more specifically, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_impact_hypothesis(sorry Daniel, but I just looover Wikipedia ).
I still go by my theory that its based on the Black Stone.

[ChronoMagus]

I still don't think the formation of Dreamstone has anything to do with Lavos.  There is no need for Lavos or Lavoids to have caused Dreamstone to be formed.

[Durakken]

The dreamstone was a naturally occuring rare mineral that was at one time used as money. It was more than likely a lot like gold at one time, but was a much smaller amount. It no longer is on earth because all was used/destroyed when used in the mammon machine. Given that zeal most likely used as much as possable after finding out it's properties which would have also fueled the change to gold.... has nothing to do with lavos...

[AuraTwilight]

Maybe your stupid crappy inferior amber doesn't.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon#Origin_and_history or more specifically, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_impact_hypothesis(sorry Daniel, but I just looover Wikipedia

What does that have to do with what I said?

[ChronoMagus]

He was talking about the moon collision theory above his post....

[Zero]

Seems I kinda forgot Melchior saying it was used as currency.  Though he could have meant after Lavos' landing, this among other things does sort of debunk my theory.

Why do you guys figure Dreamstone has such a connection to Lavos if it's just a naturally occuring mineral?

[Durakken]

we react to water, that doesn't mean water comes from us.

electricity reacts with rocks, it doesn't mean it came from them.

your face reacts to my fist, it does not mean i am part of you.

[Burning Zeppelin]

He was talking about the moon collision theory above his post....

Damn right.
My face reacts to no ones fist. And yes, you are part of me Durakken. You ALL are.