Why is the planet asleep?

[Magus22]

You mistake Lavos' power as proof of only a distructive goal.  You also are assuming he is from another world and not familiar with humans.

I just assume Lavos' power was intended for another use.  This is just a less obvious reason for Lavos part in the story.

Anyone can assume anything. But the story states that it is extra-terrestrial.

With the research of Chronopolis combined with the story plot we know cancels any fact of Lavos knowing who we are before time. For all we know he could be in an Oort Cloud or asteroid field, realm, nebula . . . you name it, other than a planet. Lavos could have scanned our planet from far away before coming and when it noticed lots of vegetation, water and (uh oh) unknown lifeforms which it deemed not to be a threat at the time, came to this planet to continue its survival.

[pingu]

The only reason its extra-terrestrial is that it fell from space.  Before that point its just theory.  My theory is that humans in some form originaly created lavos (although perhaps not in the same way we know it)

I'm just surprised by the number of people who assume Lavos is just an alien.

If CC showed us anything, its that the Chrono series gets more complex as we learn more.  That leads me to believe that our percieved notions of lavos may be wrong or at least not as simple (CC showed us that there was a much more complex relationship between lavos, the planet, humans, and time than in CT where we were lead to believe it was simply everyone vs. Lavos)

[Chrono'99]

I'm just surprised by the number of people who assume Lavos is just an alien.

The nature of his life cycle clearly means that he couldn't have come from Earth. How many chances are there that Lavos was born on Earth, that he flew off to seek another planet to infect, and that somehow after aeons of space travel the planet he stumbled upon was actually the same planet in which he was born?? This stuff works in Planet of the Apes, not in the Chrono series.

Moreover, saying "Lavos is an alien" is not saying a theory, it's saying a fact that was hinted and stated many times throughout the series. For instance:

The Frozen Flame is more than just an object. It's not of this world.
It descended from the heavens long ago, part of a huge meteorite.

   A long time ago, we -- my friends
   and I, that is -- changed the future
   in order to save our planet from
   being devoured by Lavos, a monster
   from some unknown planet.

Those are just 2 of many evidences. Now on the other hand, saying "Lavos is not an alien he actually was created by humans before leaving the planet and coming back thousands years later"... this is a theory. Not only there is nothing that hints toward that possibility in the entire series, but also on the contrary this possibility is discarded by many other facts that are... facts.

[Zaperking]

Also, the Dead Sea records or was it Chronopolis called him "the extra-terrestrial being, Lavos...."

[ChronoMagus]

We've seen Lavos lifecycle in action.  He comes, infects, absorbs, purges/cleanses, and reproduces.   That means the Planet would have already been purged already.  Plus the way Lavos flies seems one time only.  So he couldn't go destroy another planet and then come back to his homeworld. 
Plus once a planet gets infected, other life stands no chance of survival.  Lavos came from a different planet.

[pingu]

Wow are you guys trying to convince me of something? I thought we were just sharing ideas.

It's my belief that the view of lavos as an alien is the big ruse of the Chrono series.  All of the behavior Chronopolis and Lucca observe of Lavos are based on the lavos only after it has been corrupted by the DNA of all living things and begins to act as they do (ie. reproduce, feed, grow).  My feeling is that the evil of humanity is reflected in lavos rather than lavos corrupting humans.

Uncovering the true history of the planet and why lavos is there is what I believe the true revelation of the Chrono series is.

I'm not asking you to believe me, I just want to hear what your theories are on the more ambigous parts of the Chrono series story are...such as the "dream"
=(

[Radical_Dreamer]

You also are assuming he is from another world and not familiar with humans.

A fair assumption, given that we watch Lavos crash in to the Planet, from outer space, while humanity was still in it's infancy, and indeed, at the make or break moment between dominance and extinction.

[Magus22]

Wow are you guys trying to convince me of something? I thought we were just sharing ideas.

It's my belief that the view of lavos as an alien is the big ruse of the Chrono series.  All of the behavior Chronopolis and Lucca observe of Lavos are based on the lavos only after it has been corrupted by the DNA of all living things and begins to act as they do (ie. reproduce, feed, grow).  My feeling is that the evil of humanity is reflected in lavos rather than lavos corrupting humans.

Uncovering the true history of the planet and why lavos is there is what I believe the true revelation of the Chrono series is.

I'm not asking you to believe me, I just want to hear what your theories are on the more ambigous parts of the Chrono series story are...such as the "dream"
=(

Next time make it clear to us in the BEGINNING rather than rambling on counter-arguing our posts. We are also stating fact from the actual story that you consider not true.

[Zaperking]

Starky mentioned something when looking at the Frozen Flame that made me think that Lavos was created during the Big Bang.

[pingu]

Sorry for not clairifying =(

I'm not saying that the facts are not true.  I'm just saying that there are other conclusions you can draw from those facts.

Zaperking:
What was it that you saw in the Frozen Flame that made you think of that? Do you think it could be just the Frozen Flame that was created like that or all of lavos?

[Chrono'99]

   Woowzer!
   Out of this world...!
   The liight of the big baang!
   All starts from heere and
   all ends heere...
   What liies beeyond that...?

I don't think the Frozen Flame is directly connected with the Big Bang. The Flame just shows the beholders what they want (or what they absolutely don't want, sometimes). Guile sees the great enigma that he's been searching all his life, Nikki hears a "marvelous tone", Riddel hears Dario (or an illusion of him), Radius hears Garai (or an illusion), Van hears his mother (or...), etc. Starky is an emotionless space explorer, so the Flame just shows him the origin of the universe...

[Magus22]

So in these instances, it is all what an individual seeks or yurns for in their life?

Very cool. Was that text from the speeches atop Terra Tower Chrono99?

[Chrono'99]

Yes, it shows if you have Starky as the main character when you face the Frozen Flame before the Dragon God.

[ChronoMagus]

I don't think Lavos is the first of his kind, much less he was created at the Big Bang...

The universe is really really old. 15 Billion years.  I doubt it took Lavos that long to find Eartjh and land upon it.

[Magus22]

The Universe is far older than 15 billion years.

Everyone must also take in to affect that after the Big Bang, chaos was turned into order. Creation of spacious gases which give birth to stars and all that amazing stuff that I won't go into detail. Our Earth and rather other planets within solar systems and galaxies,didn't form in 7 days or anything like that. According to religion, there is a timeline to all that, but it's not true. Don't get into a religious debate here either, I know what's up with my religion and the cosmos. But anyways, within this "explosion", everything on the basis of everything in the universe came from this thing. The things that make up you and me and Lavos originated from the "bang". In a sense, we are ALL the same, hypothetically speaking.