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[Thought]

Yea I liked it better than 2(Secret of Mana).

BLASPHEMER!


But I suppose I just never liked games where the characters were so unimportant to the story that they could be replaced with such ease. Still, 3 was good in that some parts of the plot did change depending on who you selected to be in your party.

[Boo the Gentleman Caller]

That's exactly what I thought... I didn't feel anything for any of the characters since there were six and you pretty much chose who you played as.  Sure, the storylines changed according to the characters present, but it just wasn't enough for me to invest any emotions into.

[Glennleo]

That's exactly what I thought... I didn't feel anything for any of the characters since there were six and you pretty much chose who you played as.  Sure, the storylines changed according to the characters present, but it just wasn't enough for me to invest any emotions into.

But I suppose I just never liked games where the characters were so unimportant to the story that they could be replaced with such ease. Still, 3 was good in that some parts of the plot did change depending on who you selected to be in your party.

Yea, I guess your right. But I loved lvling up into the new jobs. That was fun.

[V_Translanka]

Yeah, but the characters in SD2 weren't really developed very much at all...I mean, at least in SD3 they all had their little quests and actually had some character development...

Plus, I don't trust any man named "Randy"...>_<

[Boo the Gentleman Caller]

Dude... C'mon, for 1993 RPG's those were thought out characters!  Randi's momma was the freaking MANA TREE, and was left abandoned by his dying father in the village of Potos...  Purim's beloved, Dyluck, was taken and turned into a mental zombie by Thanatos, and Popoie was the last of his kind.

And that's just the starting facts.

[V_Translanka]

Yeah, stuff happened to them...but other than that? They just weren't fleshed out at all...

[Boo the Gentleman Caller]

I know, but the other point I was trying to make is that 1993 video game characters weren't really multi-faceted...

[V_Translanka]

Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom - '90
Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millennium - '93 (though, admittedly late in '93)
Final Fantasy IV - '91
Final Fantasy V - '92
Lufia & the Fortress of Doom (lots of Doom back then, eh?) - '93

I think all of those games (possibly more...I'd have to look through more release dates) did better than Seiken Densetsu II at developing the characters (not entirely sure on PSIII though since I haven't gotten that far in it though). *shrugs*

[Boo the Gentleman Caller]

Okay, I haven't played any of the Phantasy Star games, but I will hand it to you on Lufia & the Fortress of Doom.  Barely.

[Kebrel]

Wow never played the Phantasy Star series, Its way better then FF/tales of/ or SD.

[V_Translanka]

Yeah, I'm totally PO'd that they didn't include The End of the Millennium in the GBA PS Collection...

[Boo the Gentleman Caller]

Has anyone played the new Mana games?  I don't have a DS and my PS2 is permanently out of condition to play PS2 game (although, strangely enough, it plays PS1 games)...  All of them got slightly above average to slightly below average reviews (except for a few scattered ones).

Children of Mana was pretty much a dungeon crawler if I understand correctly...
Heroes of Mana was obviously a mesh-up, widely including RTS elements...
Dawn of Mana was pretty much all about combat...

For those who have played any of them, what's your take?

[FaustWolf]

Haven't played 'em, but I think I read that Masato Kato was on scenario design for one, possibly all of them -- and that the scenario totally bombed. What's up with that? Is it that Kato wasn't inspired by the subject matter? Is he secretly yearning to write a fourth Chrono scenario, and Square-Enix's pussyfooting is putting him down?

And lest anyone think I've just made a sexist slur:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pussyfooting

Get your minds outta the gutta!

[V_Translanka]

I tried emulating Children of Mana and was fairly unimpressed early on and ended up getting rid of it.

[Thought]

Holy crap, SKYNET just went live! We're all doomed! DOOMED, I say! It will gain sentience any moment now, it will fire the U.S.' nuclear stockpile, and the retalitory effects will kill most the world's population. It is the fall of mankind and the rise of the Terminators!

As a side note, if Skynet happens to be reading this, welcome to the forum.