Lavos apocolyse attack

[grey_the_angel]

Did anybody else notice no matter where or when you fight Lavos in CT he always uses destruction rains from the heavens when fighting you in final form?
Wouldn't that mean that he's would always end the world anyway?

[Tyrant Heart]

That wouldn't explain how our heros endure a world crippling attack.
Its possible that the area Lavos rose out of and the area they fought around suffered massive damage.

Its also possible that you only fight him within that time distortion-ish area hes always in.

With the warp pot and black omen I believe you arrive before his rising out of the earth, and with the Epoch you just kind of ram a hole through his shell.

[Burning Zeppelin]

Just because there is OMG DESTRUCT0r RaYnE doesn't mean that the world will end. Only the part around him would be destroyed.

You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty

[ChronoMagus]

ok you face the short range toned down version of destruction rains from the heaven. Lets use our common sense here:

A fly is annoying me so would I:
A. Die
B. Use a fly swatter
C. Use a nuclear weapon

If Lavos used his full version he would probably hurt himself too, maybe even kill himself.

[Magus Complex]

Even if Lavos does destroy the future world every time (unless you ram him with the Epoch) after Lavos is defeated that's when the two worlds split, so the ruined world would be sent to the Darkness Beyond Time because Crono and company butted-in and that makes way for the Chonopolis version of the future... I think that's how it would work anyway.

Regardless, it's a safe assumption that Lavos' first destructive attack on the world after he wakes up is devestating, but I think it's Lavos' continued presence after that as well as Lavos Spawn attacks that cause the irreversibly damaged future seen in 2300 AD.

[grey_the_angel]

ok you face the short range toned down version of destruction rains from the heaven. Lets use our common sense here:

A fly is annoying me so would I:
A. Die
B. Use a fly swatter
C. Use a nuclear weapon

If Lavos used his full version he would probably hurt himself too, maybe even kill himself.

lavos is a completely different entity though: he does have the same views of restraint and power. he could easliy survive a nuclearholocaust crono might be able to go through.

[AuraTwilight]

But Lavos still needs to conserve his energy for the Apocalypse instead of wasting it on three kids that came to fight him at the last minute.

[CyberSarkany]

You simply fight him in his pocket-dimenision, so no world to destroy during that fight
And if not: He prolly doesn't target everything, just his Enemys(in this case your party, not the entire world)

[grey_the_angel]

You simply fight him in his pocket-dimenision, so no world to destroy during that fight
And if not: He prolly doesn't target everything, just his Enemys(in this case your party, not the entire world)

actually, if I recall, the only place where that's probably true is when you punch a hole in him with epoch. every other time he rips a hole in the earth.

[CyberSarkany]

No, before he launches his Destruction Attack, he fights you in his Pocked Dimenision(at least that's what it looks like). If you lose, he does.

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[Zaperking]

All I can say is that according to CC, Lavos never even rose. Chronopolis has no information on Lavos, and assumes that they exist because something caused Lavos to dissapear, allowed the future to progress. In other words, Lavos could not have ripped out of the ground, otherwise Chronopolis would have information. The only info they do have is the one from the Dead Sea (the conglomeration of timelines) and their own parallel worlds analysis scenario thingy.

[Magus22]

Chronopolis had minor information, yes. Zappy, was the conglomeration you were talking about from the Tower of Gheddon? The whole Arris Dome and Time Crash stuff along with Chronopolis being in the same place in a different parallel world really confused me...

[Zaperking]

Chronopolis had minor information, yes. Zappy, was the conglomeration you were talking about from the Tower of Gheddon? The whole Arris Dome and Time Crash stuff along with Chronopolis being in the same place in a different parallel world really confused me...

The conglomeration as in the Dead Timelines. It's not just one, since a bunch of them just appeared in there. Otherwise we wouldn't have Leene's square either, or the company 2400AD. And then there's Chronopolis being mixed with it. Chronopolis got most of it's information, most likely, from that asthenosphere report thingy and the records in the Dead Sea.

[Chrono'99]

Chronopolis doesn't seem to be mixed with the Dead Sea. There are Arris Dome and the Highway from CT, and Company 2400 is probably just a company inside the Dome. Leene's Square does look a bit foreign to all that though (even though Arris is Guardia).

[Zaperking]

Chronopolis doesn't seem to be mixed with the Dead Sea. There are Arris Dome and the Highway from CT, and Company 2400 is probably just a company inside the Dome. Leene's Square does look a bit foreign to all that though (even though Arris is Guardia).

Chronopolis would have been crushed or merged with it and seperated in the process. Half of the Dead Sea isn't from the original timeline, since that Asthenosphere report was in that other dome where you had to go deep inside. not climb a ladder to get to. And Yes, Leene's square is very very foreign. That's why I'd propose that the original saved future is in the Dead Sea Aswell (the Time Crash and Belthasar's time travel caused it to go bye bye from CC's stand point of view)