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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2006, 03:37:42 am »
that wasn't "how it was suppose to be drawn: it's an amateur mistake coverd by a simple excuse. a breast should flow along from a single line. if the line was penciled in from the beginning, he wouldn't have pulled it, and it would have looked natural.

The arm is wrong because no one's arm concaves at the should that deeply or gently.

As for calling everything else bull: signs in someone who's never faces scurtany under a drawing. if you can't handle the comments made by other artists and critics, don't bother drawing. frankly, the line art is very poor, the inking is really amateur, and the dude probably should used white out instead double layering.

There's a ton of amatue mistakes in this drawing, just like in my own I make mistakes/annoyances. people often complain about the fact I never draw feet/that my feet look kh style/ no legs/ I don't understand the piece/ I use stock body models to draw off of.

Really man, to say the lineart is good and to say I'm bullshitting is just not helpful. you can pretty much tell the guy has either self taught himself or is currently learning how to draw.

Its not good art, I've seen better of the same subject (literally. >.> but I ain't getting into that) and the finger pose: do it with your hand with putting pressure: YOU CAN'T. the fingers strain out: its not natural for them. make a pistol with your hand, you two bottom fingers start to hurt after a few seconds: that's why you usually do it with your index.

And no: its HER LEFT side. she's just extremely lopsided.

Now, I'm sure you know far more about art than me (all my drawing and painting is purely of my own practice, and I can never claim to be that good at it - ie. my sig is a painting of mine, which you could probably go ballistic on for technical errors), I, too, wonder if you're not being too harsh. Here's the thing: realistically, it might be off. But artistically, it might be admissable. After all, Picasso isn't exactly realistic, and I'm sure you could say how it's unnatural. But it can work nonetheless. Likewise in pure exactness to form no ancient statue can match those of, say, Michaelangelo. But is that to neccessarially say one is better than the other, or that the ancient work is flawed? It's the same thing in writing, which is an art I know a little more of, when poets are given creative license. It is technically wrong to write sentences without verbs, yet for effect it can be done. Likewise punctuation can be cast aside in favour (or for the purpose of) effect. And I was just reading a story where the footnote said that two places mentioned as being nearby where in fact fifty miles seperate: a conflation for poetic effect. And my brother, who is an aspiring musician, speaks the same way of guitar-playing. Technical prowess and exactness is not everything. Often, in fact, it is the flaws that he admires and give it the 'real' effect - an improvised, if flawed, live piece more interesting than one done to studio perfection. The best and the fastest guitarists do not always make the best music. After all, is Led Zepplin or Boston remembered in higher regard? The former, most would say, yet they would change and alter and even mess up their own work, whilst the latter was a perfectionist. I think drawing might be the same way. It might be technically wrong, but it might look right.

But I'll not definitively say you're wrong in what you say, as you plainly know so much more about art than I do, it may be that you are gauging it on artistic rather than realistic merit in pointing those things out. And I know I'd be rather the same way in critiquing writing. Knowing the art better than some others you probably pick up on things that others wouldn't even give a second look. And, like you, I'm harshest in those thing which I dislike doing myself.
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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2006, 04:25:25 am »
Wow, I always thought your sig was CG! Amazing!
hell if you think I'm just being an ass, look at one of my crappy design sessions.

Magus redesign:
http://fs7.deviantart.com/i/2005/172/1/f/grey_by_janus_the_halo_sage.jpg
Wait...what are you trying to prove?
that I've made the same errors before.
No, the Schala picture is much better.
No offence =]

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2006, 06:31:21 am »
Wow, I always thought your sig was CG! Amazing!
hell if you think I'm just being an ass, look at one of my crappy design sessions.

Magus redesign:
http://fs7.deviantart.com/i/2005/172/1/f/grey_by_janus_the_halo_sage.jpg
Wait...what are you trying to prove?
that I've made the same errors before.
No, the Schala picture is much better.
No offence =]
not really. thier about the same.

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2006, 06:42:30 am »
Wow, I always thought your sig was CG! Amazing!
hell if you think I'm just being an ass, look at one of my crappy design sessions.

Magus redesign:
http://fs7.deviantart.com/i/2005/172/1/f/grey_by_janus_the_halo_sage.jpg
Wait...what are you trying to prove?
that I've made the same errors before.
No, the Schala picture is much better.
No offence =]
not really. thier about the same.
Depends on who you are I guess. I think the Schala one is better. Better drawn, that is.

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2006, 01:46:47 pm »
I really think some of you are taking this a bit too much, blasting its content way out of proportion.

It's fan art and very good art might I add, far better than my abilities to free draw something from my mind. The artist had an idea and drew it and decided to show everyone their art. Schala in the game may be a nice woman, kind hearted and respectful, and one artist wanted to show another aspect of Schala with a different article of clothing and a somewhat flirty look.

Does it have to be the best drawing ever? Are you the best artist on this planet?

Don't get so bent out of shape about something so little. Analyze the picture and give your opinions. Don't bash. If the picture was Schala nude, then I believe everyone would be up in arms. That's understandable.

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2006, 02:34:01 pm »
ya i wasnet trying to start a brawl, im just sayin look at the tits they put on a teenager. tisk tisk

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2006, 06:43:25 pm »
ya i wasnet trying to start a brawl, im just sayin look at the tits they put on a teenager. tisk tisk
can you still be a teenager if your born in the year 12,000,000  and are released 1020 ad?

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2006, 07:26:37 pm »
About Monsters w/Money

Yeah, I've always been under the impression (as people have stated in here already) that you are rewarded by killing the monsters by either a skin-trader or the townspeople or w/e but that the game just automatically does the calculating for you because, well, it's easier that way and less boring...Either that or monsters of the same type always happen to eat the exact same amount of money...Again, it could just be for the sake of being easy...but I say you can pick one or the other...

About the Pictures (And the blatent bickering about them)

Shut up. :P No one should care about stylistic differences. And calling them "amatuer errors" does not make you cool. On the other hand, if someone is being such an obvious dick, don't take it to heart. I mean, there's really no reason to say something like that. Beauty in art is in the eye of the beholder.

Personally, I think both that pic of Schala and that...other thing...Janus? Are both fine works of fanart and both show signs of obvious talent.

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2006, 02:48:12 am »
ya i wasnet trying to start a brawl, im just sayin look at the tits they put on a teenager. tisk tisk
can you still be a teenager if your born in the year 12,000,000  and are released 1020 ad?
Game, set and match!

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2006, 04:25:50 am »
ya i wasnet trying to start a brawl, im just sayin look at the tits they put on a teenager. tisk tisk
can you still be a teenager if your born in the year 12,000,000  and are released 1020 ad?
Game, set and match!
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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2006, 04:44:44 am »
Means you just, in the immortal words of IRC User #178932617547185, been pwnd

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2006, 07:25:27 pm »
Means you just, in the immortal words of IRC User #178932617547185, been pwnd

Grey was the one doing the so-called "pwning" in that instance, not the one being pwned.

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2006, 09:45:37 pm »
Means you just, in the immortal words of IRC User #178932617547185, been pwnd

Grey was the one doing the so-called "pwning" in that instance, not the one being pwned.
no seriously, how old is Schala at the end of CC: saying she's 16 at the end of CT (too align up kid's and schala's appearance.)

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2006, 12:07:55 am »
Means you just, in the immortal words of IRC User #178932617547185, been pwnd

Grey was the one doing the so-called "pwning" in that instance, not the one being pwned.
no seriously, how old is Schala at the end of CC: saying she's 16 at the end of CT (too align up kid's and schala's appearance.)

That would depend on the relative passage of time for Schala during her unholy communion with Lavos.

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2006, 12:18:58 am »
Means you just, in the immortal words of IRC User #178932617547185, been pwnd

Grey was the one doing the so-called "pwning" in that instance, not the one being pwned.
I meant when I said "Game, Set & Match!" I meant that Grey had just "pwnd"