Retranslation discussion

[Kyronea]

No, she wanted to meet up with them again and since she found them in the Mystic Mountains before, she went there again, so it's meet, not meat.

Unless she was hunting for Crono's mea--*slaps self*

[ZeaLitY]

It took me about an hour to get chapter one finished for the new script. It shouldn't be so time-consuming down the road, but thanks to my free time issue, it's going to take longer than I had hoped.

[Glennleo]

You guys are right. My bad. 

[Radical_Dreamer]

"Ayla uses the same caveman talk, althoug..."

Should be although.

"...more of a activous tone."

Should be more of an activous tone.

[ZeaLitY]

I've racked up 13 hours of labor over the last two days, and I'm in the middle of "The Fated Hour". Once that's done, I still have to organize unused lines, get the encyclopedia up to date with all the new information (not as hard as it sounds), and make any final inquiries (like finding where straggler lines go).

If someone wants to help, I need the earliest times you can get Taban to say these things, and how:

TABAN: You're Lucca's friend right?


   If you see Lucca, tell her to drop
   by!

TABAN: Hey, Lucca!

TABAN: I'd like to see more of her.
   I've been making items she'd like.

TABAN: Oh you're just in time.

TABAN: It's my finest work!
   The ultimate in defense for my,
   daughter!

[Kyronea]

I'm pretty sure the earliest times for the first two lines are when you return from 600 A.D. for the first time, and the last three when you emerge from Vortex Point after going through Heckran's Cave, but give me about an hour and I'll have that confirmed for you.

[Glennleo]

I'm pretty sure the earliest times for the first two lines are when you return from 600 A.D. for the first time, and the last three when you emerge from Vortex Point after going through Heckran's Cave, but give me about an hour and I'll have that confirmed for you.

Somehow I knew you'd be all over it.  Good work man!

[Kyronea]

Okay, talking to Lara at any time after you return from 600 A.D. for the first time will cause Taban to walk in, talk to her, then appear in the front room of Lucca's House and remain there for the rest of the game.

The line:
TABAN: You're Lucca's friend right?
is accessible at this point, but no others--including the second page of this line--is available as of yet. The second page is easily explained by the fact that Lucca isn't in your party officially here yet. I'll continue playing through to see if I'm right about the other first possible time.

EDIT: Confirmed: all other lines he says there are accesible as soon as you pop out of Vortex Point after going through Heckran's cave.

[ZeaLitY]

The retranslated script is ready. But here's the excruciating, perfectionist waiting part:

I need some quick help tracking down or marking these lines as "lost". This is stuff I couldn't find in-game, and unless someone remembers seeing it and can find it somewhere, they'll be relegated to a special section for unused lines.

Please make sure you can find and make these lines appear in the game. If you read this list while thinking "hm, I can probably easily remember these," you'll consciously MAKE them seem familiar. A reply like "wasn't that in Guardia Castle?" won't be helpful.

<b>The New, Suspected Unused Lines</b>

 [Young Man]
   Heh, heh...you're never too old to
   collect Silver Points!

[Person]
   Ask the mayor first.

Lucca: Huh? (at the Telepod sequence)

TABAN: Hmm? (ditto)

Lucca: ...... (ditto)

Robo: Her...expressive abilities are
   also greater.

SCHALA: I...oh, all right... (Prophet's locking everyone up)

DALTON: Make like the wind and blow
   outta here...!

Marle: Help!

Lucca: What's going on!

Robo: Danger!

Frog: Oh, no!

DALTON: Mwa ha!
   You are like insects to me!

Ayla: Epoch, wake up!

SCHALA: Gurus! (in Magus's flashback)

BELTHASAR: Without the Clone, there's
   no point in going to «Death Peak!»
   Now, scram!

Robo: We have all been waiting for
   you!

   Marle and Lucca and...
   Well, all of us!

Marle: This is Crono's and
   our's... Everyone's...!

   ...and I mean, EVERYONE's world!!

CHANCELLOR: B, but your majesty, what
   victory?
   We have never fought anyone!

KING GUARDIA: Do you have any
   children, Chancellor?

CHANCELLOR: Y, yes, of course.

KING GUARDIA: Then our victory is their
   freedom!
   Your children, and theirs as well, now
   live in a world that knows hope.

CHANCELLOR: Ow, oww!

KING GUARDIA XXI: Yes, he's real.

Marle: I guess this wraps things up.

<b>The Classics</b>

 [Programming code, denoting January 11th as the finish date for Trigger]
      1/11 1G version

 [? - Appears between Ioka / Arris Dome]
   Info  [num16]
      X   [num8]   [num8]
      Y   [num8]   [num8]

 [?, found at the end of Black Omen strings]
ingthenwngerewess tw:

Marle: It's a family heirloom.
   May I please have it back?


 [? - Appears in Porre, 1000 A.D. lines]
   It was Magus who killed off the
   forest up north.

 [? - Placed with Chancellor lines]
   Oh, my...

   That Crono, he'll be strung up!


SPEKKIO: What're you laughin' at...

   Don't judge a book by it's cover...


 [?, found near Ozzie VIII's servants]
   Why do I always get stuck doing this?

 [? - Appears among 600 A.D. lines]
   The wounded just keep piling up.


 [Duplicate of Frog's Cursed Woods line]
Frog: Awake'th, Crono!

 [? - Appears between Magic Cave and Death Peak lines]
                It's closed tightly.

 [? - Appears with Ioka lines of reaction]
   Big ball of fire suddenly appear and
   burn Reptite's castle.

Magus: The lost Kingdom of Dreams.

   Sigh...
   To have gained so much, and then
   have lost it again...

 [Unused, precede Magus flashback lines]
QUEEN: So Melchior?
   You see, the Mammon Machine
   functions perfectly.

   Your worries were for naught.

QUEEN: The Guru of Reason, Belthasar.

QUEEN: And the Guru of Time, Gaspar...

QUEEN: Foolish ones, watch closely.

   Lavos awakens!
   The sun will never set on Zeal!


 [Unknown; 12000 B.C. line]
…

 [Duplicate of Dalton's Epoch line]
   Mwa, ha, ha...
   
   It's complete!
   I've done it!

 [? - Appears among 600 A.D. lines]
   I was one of the people you saved at
   Zenan.

 [? - Appears among 600 A.D. lines]
   I'm sure Cyrus is smiling, wherever he
   is.

TOMA: How have you been,  [member1]?
   I kept my promise and found it!


TOMA: When next we meet, I'll have
   some good news for you.
   Heh heh...



 [? - They never actually get the Rainbow Shell in this manner]
          You got the Rainbow Shell!

 [? - Appears in Ioka Hut Trader lines]
                 Transform!

 [? - Placed among Guardia lines]
   Pierre's, he's in the soldier's quarters.

 [? - Appears in Guardia Castle lines]
   The real Chancellor's okay.
   He took off to the Knight's room sayin'
   he was gettin' ready for the parade!

 [? - Appear in Black Omen frog lines]
   See ya around!

 [? - Probably Schala; unused OP lines]
   Aaaah!

   Nooo!

[Vehek]

[? - Placed with Chancellor lines]
   Oh, my...

   That Crono, he'll be strung up!

Fake Chancellor Yakra XIII says it when neither Marle nor Crono are in the party. (And if that "nor" makes things unclear: Marle isn't in the party, Crono also isn't in the party, he says the line.)

[? - Appears in Guardia Castle lines]
   The real Chancellor's okay.
   He took off to the Knight's room sayin'
   he was gettin' ready for the parade!

After freeing the real Chancellor in 1000 A.D., King Guardia XXXIII adds it to his dialog.
Like this:

[King]
   Sorry, fellas.
   I'm terribly embarrassed...
   
   Take care of Princess Nadia, OK?

The real Chancellor's okay.
   He took off to the Knight's room sayin'
   he was gettin' ready for the parade!

[Kyronea]

<b>The New, Suspected Unused Lines</b>

 [Young Man]
   Heh, heh...you're never too old to
   collect Silver Points!

Never seen it.

[Person]
   Ask the mayor first.

Nor that.

Lucca: Huh? (at the Telepod sequence)

Just before the Gate opens up for the first time and plunges Marle into it.

TABAN: Hmm? (ditto)

I don't recognize it.

Lucca: ...... (ditto)

Nor do I recognize this.

Robo: Her...expressive abilities are
   also greater.

Not a clue...possibly referring to Flea though I don't recall it anywhere.

SCHALA: I...oh, all right... (Prophet's locking everyone up)

Comes right after the Prohpet's line about obeying her, during the brief scene before the 12,000 B.C. gate is sealed.

DALTON: Make like the wind and blow
   outta here...!

Says it right before firing at the party for the first time.

Marle: Help!

Lucca: What's going on!

Robo: Danger!

Frog: Oh, no!

Never appeared in game...I only recognize them because of KWhazits retranslation on his site including them as lost lines.

DALTON: Mwa ha!
   You are like insects to me!

Says it after the party reacts from the first laser blast.

Ayla: Epoch, wake up!

I'm pretty sure this is another line not actually said in game.

SCHALA: Gurus! (in Magus's flashback)

Never said in game.

BELTHASAR: Without the Clone, there's
   no point in going to «Death Peak!»
   Now, scram!

Also never said in game as far as I know. Possibly stated after speaking to Balthasar after receiving the Time Egg but before receiving the clone.

Robo: We have all been waiting for
   you!

   Marle and Lucca and...
   Well, all of us!

Said by Robo if he is the one who used the Time Egg in the revival sequence, which only happens if Lucca, Frog, and Marle are not in the party.

Marle: This is Crono's and
   our's... Everyone's...!

   ...and I mean, EVERYONE's world!!

Says it as her defiance line just before fighting the Lavos Core.

CHANCELLOR: B, but your majesty, what
   victory?
   We have never fought anyone!

KING GUARDIA: Do you have any
   children, Chancellor?

CHANCELLOR: Y, yes, of course.

KING GUARDIA: Then our victory is their
   freedom!
   Your children, and theirs as well, now
   live in a world that knows hope.

CHANCELLOR: Ow, oww!

KING GUARDIA XXI: Yes, he's real.

Marle: I guess this wraps things up.

Never heard of them.

Marle: It's a family heirloom.
   May I please have it back?

I'm almost certain this is what Marle says if you refuse to give her the pendant. I'll need to check that briefly though.

[? - Appears in Porre, 1000 A.D. lines]
   It was Magus who killed off the
   forest up north.

 [? - Placed with Chancellor lines]
   Oh, my...

   That Crono, he'll be strung up!

Never said in game.

SPEKKIO: What're you laughin' at...

   Don't judge a book by it's cover...

Spekkio says this the first time you see the Pink Nu.

[?, found near Ozzie VIII's servants]
   Why do I always get stuck doing this?

 [? - Appears among 600 A.D. lines]
   The wounded just keep piling up.


 [Duplicate of Frog's Cursed Woods line]
Frog: Awake'th, Crono!

 [? - Appears between Magic Cave and Death Peak lines]
                It's closed tightly.

 [? - Appears with Ioka lines of reaction]
   Big ball of fire suddenly appear and
   burn Reptite's castle.

Magus: The lost Kingdom of Dreams.

   Sigh...
   To have gained so much, and then
   have lost it again...

 [Unused, precede Magus flashback lines]
QUEEN: So Melchior?
   You see, the Mammon Machine
   functions perfectly.

   Your worries were for naught.

QUEEN: The Guru of Reason, Belthasar.

QUEEN: And the Guru of Time, Gaspar...

QUEEN: Foolish ones, watch closely.

   Lavos awakens!
   The sun will never set on Zeal!


 [Unknown; 12000 B.C. line]
…

 [Duplicate of Dalton's Epoch line]
   Mwa, ha, ha...
   
   It's complete!
   I've done it!

 [? - Appears among 600 A.D. lines]
   I was one of the people you saved at
   Zenan.

 [? - Appears among 600 A.D. lines]
   I'm sure Cyrus is smiling, wherever he
   is.

TOMA: How have you been,  [member1]?
   I kept my promise and found it!


TOMA: When next we meet, I'll have
   some good news for you.
   Heh heh...



 [? - They never actually get the Rainbow Shell in this manner]
          You got the Rainbow Shell!

 [? - Appears in Ioka Hut Trader lines]
                 Transform!

 [? - Placed among Guardia lines]
   Pierre's, he's in the soldier's quarters.

 [? - Appears in Guardia Castle lines]
   The real Chancellor's okay.
   He took off to the Knight's room sayin'
   he was gettin' ready for the parade!

 [? - Appear in Black Omen frog lines]
   See ya around!

 [? - Probably Schala; unused OP lines]
   Aaaah!

   Nooo!

As far as I know, all unused.

Hopefully that was at least somewhat helpful.

[Vehek]

[Young Man]
   Heh, heh...you're never too old to
   collect Silver Points!

Said by the guy in the Truce Residence on the left after you return from 600 A.D.
To be more specific, he's in the same house as the "I'm so happy I could scream!" girl.

[?, found near Ozzie VIII's servants]
   Why do I always get stuck doing this?

Said by a Hench in Medina Square after finishing the Ozzie sidequest.

[ZeaLitY]

Thanks for tonight, everyone. Hopefully we can resume tomorrow. Still have to get the encyclopedia ready, but things are winding down. This is what the passion of youth is all about! It's a rejection of fatigue when you want to accomplish something wonderful with a little tedium in your way.

Well, guess I'm bragging or something, but I mean to encourage.

[Vehek]

BELTHASAR: Without the Clone, there's
   no point in going to «Death Peak!»
   Now, scram!

After briefly looking at the event code with the old (v1.07) version of Temporal Flux and taking a movie from Zophar and playing through, I'd said this line is said if you've won a Crono clone already, but haven't picked it from Crono's house up yet.

Marle: This is Crono's and
   our's... Everyone's...!

   ...and I mean, EVERYONE's world!!

I looked at the event code of the Lavos Core location and whether Marle says this line or the other one mentioning Doan and Leene depends on a variable.
I looked at the Telepod Exhibit's event code, and I think I may know what the variable is: New Game+.

[ZeaLitY]

Are we dead sure that the "don't judge a book by its cover" line happens there? I've been testing everything else, but I don't have time for that one.