Graphics Hacking

[FaustWolf]

Crimson and black it is.

[Agent 12]

I'm attaching a patch that changes the little corner boxes to XXX5.  It should be able to be applied to any SMC file (static data).  But we have to do some OW event tweaks to make it work.

--JP

[Agent 12]

Attaching an Rusted Robo => AAE graphic change.  .....I did the best I could .....

Again it's totally static data so this can be applied to any CT (or CE ) rom.

--JP

[Chrono'99]

What's the Agitator supposed to be anyway? I thought it was like a remote control or something.


Here is an almost finished version of King Zeal (the background is just a mock-up). I wasn't satisfied with the bottom half of his body, since it was too obviously copy-pasted from the Mammon Machine and because floating demi-god creatures like are too reminiscent of Final Fantasy. So I gave him real, human, kneeling legs instead.

The flames should probably be separate sprite enemies to make for an interesting battle. King Zeal could be either part of the tileset or a sprite...I don't know what's better/easier. Thoughts?

[utunnels]

Yeah, the picture alone is pretty good.
But since I have seen the statue in Magus's castle, so..I can't stop thinking it.

[nightmare975]

I thought the Mammon Machine was to represent where the flame once resided. As if the Time Devourer was creating the thing out of it's own memories.

[FaustWolf]

That is SO freaking awesome '99!

justin3009 and Vehek would best be able to advise you on the proper methodology of insertion. For now, I'd have to ask the following questions:

1. Will there be an animated background scrolling behind King Zeal?
2. If so, will the animated background be a Layer 3 effect (e.g., the mist in 2300AD buildings in CT) or a Layer 1 background?
3. Most importantly, do you need to have the party confront King Zeal in human form before he turns into this badass demon guy? If so, it would be best to make King Zeal a Size 5 sprite as opposed to making him incorporated into the background.

However, there may be tricks for getting around #3 that I don't know about. Maybe via the same coding that allows a Guardian door to change appearance on command.

[Chrono'99]

The background (layer 1) will scroll like the one from the battle against Flea in CT. This is actually the same tileset as the Flea one, but with a different palette.

There's a battle against King Zeal in human form, but yeah there's a command that can take care of copying tiles from one area of the map to another. This form could be put in an area outside of the player's view and pasted on the screen when appropriate.

[Agent 12]

The King Zeal fight is currently in a 10 X 10 map, you can either extend the map (cross fingers) or just go to a new location.   I'm 90% sure it'd be easier to make him a tileset.  Specially if you are making the flames seperate enemies (it could be a pain to get the enemy PRM stuff).  Though I guess the Zeal head/hands fight is comparable so, you can do whatever you want.   

--JP

P.S. did you replace the Zeal head/hands for this?
P.P.S.  Oh yea....that sprite is ridiculously awesome.
P.P.P.S:  Another argument for tileset is what i mentioned above....If it's a tileset we don't have to worry about an enemies spell suddenly causing a new graphic to be displayed.   Though if FW is good enough with tile assembly he can just have the sprite be exactly the same for every animation.....i think......

[FaustWolf]

I can handle it if you guys want King Zeal to be a tileset, or advise or split the work with anyone else who wants to.

[Agent 12]

totally 99's decision it's his handy work.

FW do you think you could replace the "dancer" who didn't have much space with the Ark?  It'd probably involve tile assembly since the ark is horizontal and the dancer is vertical.  It also should fit I assume?  If it doesn't fit hold off.

--JP

[Chrono'99]

The Ark should normally fit on the Dactyl's sprite because I used it as a template for size and assembly. The frame that has the Dactyl opening its mouth corresponds to the second Ark frame (the one with the lid removed).

I'll try to see where King Zeal can fit in a tileset. I think the "Flea" tileset has enough space to have some tiles from somewhere else repointed to it. If you look at the subtile swatch for it in TF, there's like 1/5 of empty space at the bottom of it.

[FaustWolf]

The Ark could definitely fit in the Dancer's GFX pack too, but the Dactyl would probably be much more suitable.

[Agent 12]

Oh if it already corresponds to a sprites assembly definitely use that one

If you need tilesets there's plenty that we don't use.......like the second to last lavos battle (with all the tentacles) or outside of magus castle.

--JP

[FaustWolf]

How are you doing on the Annihilation Energy Agitator? There's lots of cool doohickeys on the Spriter's Resource, so let me know if you want to shop around for new objects. I think I saw it just briefly during my CE playthrough, but I didn't get a really good look at it and I'm not sure whether you've settled on a design.