Author Topic: Cannibalism  (Read 5074 times)

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2006, 04:10:11 pm »
You're getting very good at diplomatically bowing out of a discussion whenever I get feisty. I don't know whether to smirk or weep. But my argument has run its course. I think I'd just be repeating myself if I kept on at this rate. And cannibalism isn't even an issue that I care about. I just appreciate the opportunity to challenge people's borders of what is normal, and why they believe that.

Believe me when I say I'm natually more argumentative a personality. I'm just feeling really tired, and not in the right state of mind to actually be able to argue.

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2006, 04:12:29 pm »
Try using Russian Reversal... Always works.

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2006, 08:14:20 pm »
Supposing my pets and I were stranded on a deserted island, I'd starve to death before eating them; the extra weight I'm trying to lose right now would constitute an aid for once.

You're in a position to know more than I do, so correct me if you find I am mistaken. Here it is: The more you weigh, the more calories your body needs to maintain your body's weight. Thus, if you were to restrict your diet to a fixed calorie intake independent from your actual weight, then, all else being equal, that diet would be more extreme the more you weigh. Therefore, assuming that starvation is not an appropriate weight-loss technique in any case, you would still have to eat more than a thinner person simply to lose the same amount of weight. And, consequently, we might say that extra weight is never an (appropriate) aid to weight loss. The popular misconception that fatter people can simply stop eating and live off their fat is, I think, just that: a misconception.

I appreciate attempts to be the devil's advocate and challenge people's skills at justifying themselves, but as a general rule, I don't make serious arguments whose tenets I wouldn't be willing to back up personally.

I can appreciate that. But I make a distinction between making these arguments to oneself and making them before an audience. The former is an excellent case of knowing your enemy; the latter can be counterproductive with respect to whatever sensitivity is at issue. I, for instance, would not take the academic exercise of making arguments in front of any of you in favor of the subjugation of women. But, in order to better understand the people who believe that kind of nonsense, I try to anticipate their logic myself. For all I know you make the same distinction, and simply didn't mention it. But otherwise I would encourage you not to close your mind to things you don't like, because when that happens you begin to lose power to them.

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2006, 09:00:20 pm »
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You're in a position to know more than I do, so correct me if you find I am mistaken. Here it is: The more you weigh, the more calories your body needs to maintain your body's weight. Thus, if you were to restrict your diet to a fixed calorie intake independent from your actual weight, then, all else being equal, that diet would be more extreme the more you weigh. Therefore, assuming that starvation is not an appropriate weight-loss technique in any case, you would still have to eat more than a thinner person simply to lose the same amount of weight. And, consequently, we might say that extra weight is never an (appropriate) aid to weight loss. The popular misconception that fatter people can simply stop eating and live off their fat is, I think, just that: a misconception.

Nah, you pretty much got it right.

You're quite right that starvation is never an appropriate way to lose weight; at the end of a starvation diet, you just gain it all back devouring food like a madman.  A combination of diet, exercise and dietary supplements is the best way to lose weight permanently.  When you suddenly stop eating, it signals your body that there's a scarcity of food available, so it goes into famine mode and tries to conserve all the calories it possibly can.  You lose weight, but you do so slowly.

There's an energy requirement simply to stay alive; the heavier you are, the greater this energy requirement is.  In order for a heavier person to maintain their weight, they do indeed have to eat more than a lighter person.  I've made use of this fact without starving myself; I lost 15 pounds last month.  I tend to find different sources of exercise than the gym, which I view as rather prosaic and uninteresting.  I'll volunteer for manual labor, go to a nightclub and dance, play one of the few sports I happen to like, or something like that.

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I can appreciate that. But I make a distinction between making these arguments to oneself and making them before an audience. The former is an excellent case of knowing your enemy; the latter can be counterproductive with respect to whatever sensitivity is at issue. I, for instance, would not take the academic exercise of making arguments in front of any of you in favor of the subjugation of women. But, in order to better understand the people who believe that kind of nonsense, I try to anticipate their logic myself. For all I know you make the same distinction, and simply didn't mention it. But otherwise I would encourage you not to close your mind to things you don't like, because when that happens you begin to lose power to them.

I do make such a distinction, but probably not to the same magnitude that you do.

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2006, 07:19:45 am »
Tell me, V, are you eating already starting to eat people, or are you just getting the cravings, a drooling every time you see a nice, plump person? Now all you need is the gingerbread house!

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2006, 11:06:08 am »
Thats why he's here. he's gonna lure every one of us Chrono fans to his gingerbread house. Thats what happened to Zeality.

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2006, 06:17:23 pm »
That would sure go a long way to explain the stabbity-stabbity. Now instead of a deranged psychopath who slaughters randomly for his own demented pleasure, we're dealing with a methodical serial killer who slays people to devour their scrumptious flesh.

V_Translanka it's people like you who make grownups say the Internets are full of weirdos!

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2006, 12:54:02 am »
CANNIBALISM IS FUCKING GROSS-ASS SHIT.  OHMYGOD.
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It is they say that native people do it and well. The native people say what ever body part that they eat makes there same bodypart stronger I say BULLSHIT hey just ran out of food so there going to eat people. But not all native men. and yes stick with eating animals please .........Not peoples   :shock:

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2006, 06:54:55 am »
Yeah, but why should we? The only reason for me to eat animals>Humans is because a human takes far to long to give actually enough meat to eat. But then again, a dog doesn't give that much meat either. Sure, sickness and stuff, but do we actually know what in a hamburger really is? And who is living healthy in our fast-food society anyways?

I'm for genmanipulation of humans so they grow as fast as pigs do, so we can farm them.

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2006, 07:22:56 am »
In some countries, people eat almost everything(except humans) because of poverty. In China & S. Korea, they considered dogs, snakes, rats & even tigers as delicacies.

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2006, 07:24:20 am »
Hmmm, tigers, eh? *Has funny thoughts of a cow slaughter house - with tigers.*

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2006, 08:05:11 am »
Snakes have been considered food in many nations.

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2006, 08:21:25 am »
Yeah, I've heard of that. My friend was supposedly gonna have rattlesnake in America. o_0

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2006, 10:07:38 am »
Is it dangerous to own a rattlesnake? These type of snakes is one of the most venomous snake in the world.

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Re: Cannibalism
« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2006, 10:30:21 am »
I meant 'have' as in eat one. They killed one during a trip, y'see.