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Crimson Echoes
« on: July 17, 2006, 03:01:18 am »
WHat happened to Crimson Echoes? Whats the Progress, Im ITCHING to know!
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Re: Crimson Echoes
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2006, 03:04:19 am »
Try going to Kajar Laboratories, they might have something there.
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Re: Crimson Echoes
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2006, 03:09:13 am »
Crimson Echoes is making excellent development progress, in fact, thanks to Dag and his crack team. I am less pleased with the development of its plot, but then again you imagine that I have distinctive tastes.
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Re: Crimson Echoes
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2006, 06:32:49 am »
Yeah, its development is going full speed, but as for the plot... well, it's one of the few fanproject which does the coding before the plot, and it shows.
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Re: Crimson Echoes
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2006, 07:28:47 am »
Yeah, it's much better than I expected... :)
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Re: Crimson Echoes
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2006, 10:50:08 am »
It was supposed to have a better plot, but they can't do any of the shit I wanted to do, sadly enough.  The engine just won't permit it.
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Re: Crimson Echoes
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2006, 12:39:58 pm »
Still, it will still be a good hack. :D
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Re: Crimson Echoes
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2006, 04:02:51 pm »
A "good hack" was not what the aim originally...
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Re: Crimson Echoes
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2006, 12:56:24 am »
I want the project to be as best as it can be, as long as...
OO COOKIES! *Runs away and sits in a corner* Go Away!

AHEM!
As long as it isnt a shitty plot.
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Re: Crimson Echoes
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2006, 03:51:36 am »
I'm not sure where the plot stands nowadays. What they had before - the combined ZeaLitY and Hadriel effort - was quite good (and I'm usually pretty harsh in judging such things), but I'm not certain what was removed and what remained. I tried making some of my own suggestions, but I don't think they ever quite found their way in. I'd help them with plot but, hey, plotwriting is probably the lesser of my writing skills, so I'll probably steer clear of it.

But wait a second, Hadriel's still in this, isn't he? And ZeaLitY, while on vacation or whatever, hasn't bowed out wholly. And Lord J, you're not absent either. The three of you you can't come up with a magnificent plot? Hadriel is bloody good at ideas, ZeaLitY is a wonderful writer, and Lord J... well, I can't say I've read anything other than forum posts but, as much as I have my differences with him, I'm certain he'd be a good writer/plotwriter. What's the problem here? Are you telling me that you three of all are making a substandard plot? Okay, I've got to get around to reading it, because there's no way I'd believe that. Heck, that's the thing that struck me about CE when it first started: it actually had a good plotline. So... have I missed something here? But, hey, whatever, I've got faith in you guys. If anybody can pull off a good Chrono plot, it's you. If ZeaLitY does even half as well in scripting this as he did writing dialogue for his Gaspar Chronicles...
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Re: Crimson Echoes
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2006, 03:58:25 am »
some advice when writing the plot dont take into consideration too much of the over analisation you guys sometimes do theres a point where it simply turns from stuff the original writer intended to mean or suggest  to stuff that can mean/suggest certain things purly by coincedince.

but meh anyway
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Re: Crimson Echoes
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2006, 04:12:14 am »
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I'm not sure where the plot stands nowadays. What they had before - the combined ZeaLitY and Hadriel effort - was quite good (and I'm usually pretty harsh in judging such things), but I'm not certain what was removed and what remained. I tried making some of my own suggestions, but I don't think they ever quite found their way in. I'd help them with plot but, hey, plotwriting is probably the lesser of my writing skills, so I'll probably steer clear of it.

But wait a second, Hadriel's still in this, isn't he? And ZeaLitY, while on vacation or whatever, hasn't bowed out wholly. And Lord J, you're not absent either. The three of you you can't come up with a magnificent plot? Hadriel is bloody good at ideas, ZeaLitY is a wonderful writer, and Lord J... well, I can't say I've read anything other than forum posts but, as much as I have my differences with him, I'm certain he'd be a good writer/plotwriter. What's the problem here? Are you telling me that you three of all are making a substandard plot? Okay, I've got to get around to reading it, because there's no way I'd believe that. Heck, that's the thing that struck me about CE when it first started: it actually had a good plotline. So... have I missed something here? But, hey, whatever, I've got faith in you guys. If anybody can pull off a good Chrono plot, it's you. If ZeaLitY does even half as well in scripting this as he did writing dialogue for his Gaspar Chronicles...

Regrettably, I don't actually have much to do with the CE project these days; my efforts are focused on real-life stuff.  In the few moments when I'm not dealing with that or playing games, I'm working on the plotting for my Zelda fic.  Actually, I've been shut up working on it for most of the last week just establishing parameters for starship systems and combat.  *nags for feedback*

You actually helped out quite a bit, for inspiration if nothing else.
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Re: Crimson Echoes
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2006, 04:16:51 am »
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I'm not sure where the plot stands nowadays. What they had before - the combined ZeaLitY and Hadriel effort - was quite good (and I'm usually pretty harsh in judging such things), but I'm not certain what was removed and what remained. I tried making some of my own suggestions, but I don't think they ever quite found their way in. I'd help them with plot but, hey, plotwriting is probably the lesser of my writing skills, so I'll probably steer clear of it.

But wait a second, Hadriel's still in this, isn't he? And ZeaLitY, while on vacation or whatever, hasn't bowed out wholly. And Lord J, you're not absent either. The three of you you can't come up with a magnificent plot? Hadriel is bloody good at ideas, ZeaLitY is a wonderful writer, and Lord J... well, I can't say I've read anything other than forum posts but, as much as I have my differences with him, I'm certain he'd be a good writer/plotwriter. What's the problem here? Are you telling me that you three of all are making a substandard plot? Okay, I've got to get around to reading it, because there's no way I'd believe that. Heck, that's the thing that struck me about CE when it first started: it actually had a good plotline. So... have I missed something here? But, hey, whatever, I've got faith in you guys. If anybody can pull off a good Chrono plot, it's you. If ZeaLitY does even half as well in scripting this as he did writing dialogue for his Gaspar Chronicles...

Regrettably, I don't actually have much to do with the CE project these days; my efforts are focused on real-life stuff.  In the few moments when I'm not dealing with that or playing games, I'm working on the plotting for my Zelda fic.  Actually, I've been shut up working on it for most of the last week just establishing parameters for starship systems and combat.  *nags for feedback*

You actually helped out quite a bit, for inspiration if nothing else.

Oh yeah, damn, that's right. You sent me something about that fic, didn't you? I'll get back to you shortly. I've got this thing with replying to creative endeavours... I wait till I'm in a writing mood myself. Otherwise I don't know what to say. Ask Legend about that: sometimes I'll reply pages and pages, and other times remain silent for a month. But I did see what you sent me, nor have I, nor will I, forget, rest assured.
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Re: Crimson Echoes
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2006, 12:51:25 pm »
It tickles me to think of what could be accomplished with a new fan project. Now that there are TF users and ROM hackers in the tens, a full team could be assembled easily and start straightaway converting a plot to reality. I'm concerned over what the next Compendium endorsed ROM hack should be once CE is done. CE will be a good game, but it will not be professional; ROM hacks just aren't. We are not professional developers, and CE was plagued by getting off on the wrong foot for a year and a half. But it will be damn enjoyable, and from what I've read of the feedback, my dialogue's standing the test of time. But really, I'm out of ideas for the "NEXT BIG THING." I proposed some kind of Radical Dreamers adventure, but there are other alternatives.

Additionally, we could hack the Japanese ROM and input the coming retranslated script, but this is wholly the work of professionals. Probably only two people here could do that, or perhaps help from ACMLM's could be outsourced. I'm not really hyped on a retranslated ROM, as the script is going to rock. It's 70% done, and we owe it all to KWhazit.
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Re: Crimson Echoes
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2006, 01:55:59 am »
I don't have anything to offer publicly, but I will discuss this with you online at some point in the reasonably near future, ZeaLitY.
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