best villian in the SE universe.

[grey_the_angel]

All you see is hungry people.  Does that strike fear in you? No.  Why?

Because you see all the starving people in Africa.

Plus it takes longer for Lavos to destroy the world then it is for Sephiroth.

wrong: it took lavos ten seconds to destory the world after he was done leeching from it.

I rest my point, Lavos needs time (as in years/centuries) to destroy the world, while it takes at least seven days to destroy the world.

Which brings me to my next SE villians, The Rudras from Treasure of the Rudras. They destroyed the dominant race every 4000 years, and you only had 16 days to save the human race.

wrong again. lavos didn't need time for anything: its proven he can do shit when he's pissed off. You can fight him whenever in chrono trigger, save 65 mil.

He doesn't need time, he just needs time to get a good, RIPE meal.

[Matt Shadows]

Didn't he blow the place to hell when he landed? Well... didn't he? And what about Zeal? Didn't he blow the shit out of it? I'm agreeing with Grey. If he's mad he can do some crazy shit.

[Exodus]

It is clearly stated that Lavos remains on the planet to harvest DNA. This is his ONLY apparent purpose in Chrono Trigger.

[V_Translanka]

Why must Clod be stronger than Crono? Where Crono is as powerful as the magic he wields, Clod is only as strong as the Materia he happens to have equipped (and the mastery of said Materia)...Clod is basically using the Chrono Cross system...>_>

[nightmare975]

How did you get the game. Did you take your Gundam and go to Japan?

coughcoughromscoughhackwheeze

[Rat]

Why must Clod be stronger than Crono? Where Crono is as powerful as the magic he wields, Clod is only as strong as the Materia he happens to have equipped (and the mastery of said Materia)...Clod is basically using the Chrono Cross system...>_>

No longer is he a fluffy thing in the sky, but a dirtball on the ground.

....I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.

[V_Translanka]

I totally didn't understand what you meant for the longest time...I meant "clod" in the more traditional, "he's a clumsy bastard" sense...eh? eh?

[Romana]

I totally didn't understand what you meant for the longest time...I meant "clod" in the more traditional, "he's a clumsy bastard" sense...eh? eh?

Yeah, heheh.

Cloud seems to be hated everywhere I go for some reason.

[V_Translanka]

Oh, it's become popular now to hate him and the game he's from...I think it's because people found out I didn't like them and want to be cool like me...

[grey_the_angel]

I totally didn't understand what you meant for the longest time...I meant "clod" in the more traditional, "he's a clumsy bastard" sense...eh? eh?

Yeah, heheh.

Cloud seems to be hated everywhere I go for some reason.

I don't like emo bitches. I like people like Kid, tough yet supple. :3.... *gets lost in thoughts* supple.

[ZeaLitY]

Cloud had enough justification to be moody and unsettled. His being titanically flawed made his determination and self-will that much more convincing and admirable.

[Matt Shadows]

How did you get the game. Did you take your Gundam and go to Japan?

coughcoughromscoughhackwheeze

Oh shit. That better not be contagious.
Great.... coughcoughOcoughcoughKcoughAcoughYcough....... *passes out*

[1stoftheLast]

Spoiler Tag

I have to argue on the point that Kefka acomplished his goals.  I certainly never heard him say that he wanted to live in a junk tower and shoot white lightning at people now and then.  The only time in the entire game that we get a Kefka "mission statement" is at the end when he says he wants to kill every living thing on earth.  And well, he doesn't even get that close. 

Now Sepheroth, his goal is to crash a meteor into a planet and then absord the life energy that gathers around said crash point.  Now let me tell you, that rock was inches away from hitin' the damn ground inches.

I digress, Lavos loses points in the personality department, and for me, thats a big blow.  So I vote for Golbez from Final Fantasy IV.  He has a deep enough character, and playing the retraslated version really gave me a better look at his comedic timing.  He is both good and evil and Most Imporantly he is an excellent foil for the hero.  And that my friends, is why they invented villians in the first place.

golbez loses simply for having this line "Now I, golbez, Am going to knock you all down!"

what the fuck was that?

Yo, homeboy.  You're thinking of Garland, not Golbez

[Sentenal]

Golbez was a good, classic villian.  I liked him, and his 4 Fiends of Elements.  Rubicant was really...  Unique, I guess you could say.  What other boss restores your health before you fight it?

[Romana]

Every FF game seems to have a villain like that - they're not really the 'evil' type, but they're you're enemy anyway. Like General Leo, in FFVI.