Defense of Zenan Bridge

[ZeaLitY]

I'm doing our first theory entry in the Encyclopedia, and decided to start with this:

http://chronocompendium.com/Term/Zenan_Bridge_(Defense_in_Lavos_Timeline)

Zenan Bridge was held by Crono in the Keystone Timelines from invaders in 600 A.D., and it was suggested that the knights of the Kingdom of Guardia could not defend the bridge themselves. It is also implied that Zenan Bridge is a last point of defense for the kingdom, meaning that had it fallen, the Mystics would have won the Mystic War. If Crono was essential to its defense, and the world remained the same before and after his intervention in time, how was Zenan Bridge guarded in the Lavos Timeline?

Frog-Retainer Theory
ZeaLitY

Frog mentions that he failed to save the Queen Leene from being kidnapped in the Keystone Timelines, and departs for the Cursed Woods. I propose that due to the different nature of her rescue in the Lavos Timeline, Frog stayed with the kingdom, and was able to fill Crono's role in the defense of Zenan Bridge.

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ZeaLitY: Perhaps Crono's role in saving Queen Leene in the Keystone Timelines made Frog feel more inferior and responsible than he would if he alone had saved her from Yakra, and this was the deciding factor in whether he departed.

[chronotriggerfreak]

Makes sense to me.

Honestly, seems like a tiny and unworthy squabble. Let's just accept this and be done with it, I mean, one would have to be crazy and have some floozy theory about how Crono is the Entity or some such nonsense to have any other legible theory.

[Akuma]

But still, Frog barely could've beaten Yakra by himself (with the stats he has when you first get him). Or perhaps, we know guardian soldiers were searching for Queen Leene, and they would've kept searching also if Marle never appeared. Anyways, who's to say they didn't track her down to the cathederal? It seems unlikely Frog beat Yakra and his men alone. But it's possible I guess.

As for the Zenan Bridge thing, magic is real effective against him and nobody knew magic. Also Frog alone obviously wouldn't be enough. We're not sure how strong the Knight Captain is. Probably stronger then all those knights that are killed by The Deceased.

Anyways the Chef probably delivered the rations himself.

[Arcane]

Simple. The chef and the knight took down all the monsters, because they could use X-Strike. Pot-wielder and Nobody-knows-what-wielder...

[V_Translanka]

It's Gold Helm-wielder, duh!

And yes, I'm pretty sure that Crono & Marle interrupted things greatly when the Entity stepped in...In the original timeline the Guardian troops would have continued their search, perhaps getting all the way to the Cathedral. Either way, Frog was already going there. I think he could do fine against Yakra. He's got a healing Tech, right? It'd be a long battle, but not one he couldn't win solo (especailly not with the plausibility of Guardian troops w/him).

edit: I first posting this saying 'not one he could win solo' boy what a fool I felt  

[Symmetry]

Hmm. I question whether the defense of the bridge really was "the last stand".

From the perspective of Guardia, it would seem so. If they fail to hold the bridge, the town there would easily be sacked. That doesn't mean that it would be the end of the war. The villagers could be relocated to the castle, and its not like castles are the easiest thing to takeover.

Since we don't know the amount of time that passes between the bridge incident and when Crono & crew take on Magus, perhaps we also need to consider that all that Guardia really needed to do (although they didn't know it) was hold off the Mystics until Magus was defeated by Lavos. (Am I correct in remembering this is how Magus orginally vanished?)

Without Magus, the Mystics take a big hit in their leadership. Perhaps enough time for Guardia to rally.

[Akuma]

And with no Crono to invade Magus' castle and scare his henchmen off, they'd most likely die when the castle collapsed.

But in the altered timeline, Ozzie lived and gave Magus no credit as he was beaten by humans.

[doulifee]

or maybe the battle turn differently in the original timeline, and the zenan bridge never happen. the human were suffisiant enough to keep the war in the other side of the sea

[Epsilon]

Perhaps Zenan Bridge fell in 601 AD or something, but at that time Magus attempte to summon Lavos with the help of his henchmen, and all were killed. Without leadership, the Mystic Army collapses and the invasion fails.

[V_Translanka]

Perhaps w/Magus KOed Frog steps in again and takes care of the rest.

[Crono0801]

no I don't think that Lavos ko'ed Magus. What about that ending where you see Frog going to Magus' castle and you hear them battlin and you see a figure with a cape on top of Magus' castle, it could have been Frog who won the fight or maybe Magus won and got beat by Lavos later on anyway.

[V_Translanka]

no I don't think that Lavos ko'ed Magus. What about that ending where you see Frog going to Magus' castle and you hear them battlin and you see a figure with a cape on top of Magus' castle, it could have been Frog who won the fight or maybe Magus won and got beat by Lavos later on anyway.

You DO realize that to GET that ending you have to DEFEAT LAVOS, right?

[Crono0801]

no I don't think that Lavos ko'ed Magus. What about that ending where you see Frog going to Magus' castle and you hear them battlin and you see a figure with a cape on top of Magus' castle, it could have been Frog who won the fight or maybe Magus won and got beat by Lavos later on anyway.

You DO realize that to GET that ending you have to DEFEAT LAVOS, right?

Ooops thats right. My bad but anyways who wins then? Man time travel and all this opens up so many possiblities that it is super confusing.

[V_Translanka]

I always thought it looked more like Frog, but I think they made it vague enough so that it could be whoever the viewer wanted it to be. Although, I wanted it to be Magus myself...Who cares? Magus isn't about to summon Lavos, so it matters naught. But if Magus won, perhaps that creates another future timeline? Wait, this is all horribly off-topic, now isn't it?

[XchrononetX]

Wouldn't Glenn (I refuse to call him Frog) have gotten excellerated lvling because of being alone, though. Surely he could have beaten Yakra by himself. BTW, even if Zenan fell, Magus would have summoned Lavos and been beaten, and the Mystics would have gone in hiding with the sudden loss of their great leader. Kill the Chief and the Indians don't know what to do, no?