yeah 420 chan had it, but most of the site shown was from 4chan. And of course, naturally, we just attacked this shit out of them for it.
as for the ultimate evil: yeah, but you can amazing dicussion out of them if you play it right: I have two full threads saved for a report on Opinion on East manga growing more popular then Western cartoon. I've learned more about cars then I should have ever learned.
I think its all the present notions of the site itself. Granted, I'm not going to disagree with anybody here, I'm just saying: two sides to the coin.
We? Did you bother adding to the DoS attack? Or do you feel that simply visiting and posting makes you accountable for what some of the people who visit the site do?
And then in the context of "4chan is evil" you immediately distance yourself. Why? Don't want the negative aspects to be associated with you? So it's okay to be associated when the news sensationalizes 4chan as a "cool, uber-hacker group", but the horrible, grotesque image swapping, the porn sharing, and all the senseless bullshit that makes up regular posting there has nothing to do with you, right?
It's either we or they. Choose one and stick to it.
Anyway, 4chan is 4chan; it's just a site, and an Internet mob is just a mob. DoS attacks and messing with MySpace accounts is trivial crap. None of that makes 4chan more than an anonymous bunch of (at best) everyday people emboldened by their own anonymity, and it certainly doesn't make them an underground organization of super hackers.