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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1050 on: August 15, 2011, 05:13:38 pm »
That's why you offer to buy them a hot meal first, haha. As I said, half of the homeless I've dealt with have turned down a free meal.
XD It's not always because they're greedy for money, though. When it was Mom's birthday I bicycled a few kilometers to discretely find a neat present, and found a shop that sells brilliant Bengali sweets (note: these sweets are heavenly; get addicted and you get fat). While I purchased some a poor family that looked like travelers from a village spoke in an alien language (resembling Rajhastani) which I couldn't understand. I thought they wanted cash, but because I was in a good mood I thought I'd give them something even better and spent 20 bucks to buy em samosas (parceled). When I handed them the parcel and warmly wished them well, hoping they'd enjoy the delicious treat with their kids, they simply looked at me confused and went away, staring at the bag.

A friend of mine saw that and laughed at me. I thought he was going to compliment me, but the said, "You doofus. They were asking for money or directions so they can get back home!" I regretted my happy-go-lucky actions, but he patted my back saying that at least I provided them some Anna (aka, food, but in a broader sense; anything provided for life's welfare by nature is considered sacred; nature's gift), which was a blissful thing to do.

So, tush... are they insistent on remaining in their poverty or do they not know which end is up?
Both; think of it this way. Despite curiosity being a natural thing, the majority of folks in the world wouldn't dabble with the unknown if they think it could be bad for them. You fear shadows because you can't see beyond it; you always fear the unknown, especially since you don't know from which way they will come and devour you.

To us who've dabbled with Chemistry on a regular basis we know it's for the better of the society. To them, who don't know what "Sodium" is, it's nothing more than witchcraft.

(First of all, it may be helpful to separate "the poor" from "the destitute" or homeless. Obviously, poor people can have high standards for productivity.)
Ah, forgive me... It's ironic I'd forget that difference. But then again, till now, I never knew what destitute meant, let alone differentiate between them.

I also tend to agree that poor people are not aware of all the opportunities available to them. Their lack of resources is usually not just material -- it's informational as well. They don't have the social and cultural network that can inform them of opportunities. So of course they want money; education is intangible, and their priorities are probably closer to survival than ours are -- closer than we can understand. They also may not understand the significance of education in the long term, or, just as likely, are not sure whether education will actually improve their station or not. Given the time and expense involved, and the fact that doing well in education often has as much to do with cultural factors as intelligence, they would have reason to be wary.
Hah, that's something I can't argue with. I just wish agriculture became a dignified occupation / career of choice so the world wouldn't be so poor and hungry. Agricultural education isn't quite as intangible as general education, but that's the only solution I have in mind (an easy solution wouldn't be worth it). Institutions can also be formed where volunteers could inspire the destitute about the miracles of education and provide them with it with the help of charity.

There's also another problem, though. At mom's childhood, grandpa could barely pull his family through poverty though he managed in the end. But if they were US citizens (according to this website), chances our I would have been a bloody panhandler today. If this article is write, there's a phenomenon in the USA that's called "poverty tax", a circle that's impossible to break through. Charity is easy, but what about helping the poor fellas stand on their own feet? It only gets increasingly difficult for a person to wish everyone reaches the finish line together.

But generally my bias is that I think people should be aiming for a well-lived, fulfilling life, not chasing after some illusory standard of endless productivity (which I honestly think is problematic because it is a value attached to a system of unlimited growth).
*smiles* Since you point it that way, I have a story for you. Despite my youth, I believe I've already lived a life of great happiness, and I found happiness beneath my very feet long ago (and you need neither money, nor intelligence, nor productivity for that). But the reason I still live and strive because, this time, I want to be the bowl that feeds humanity; I want to show my family worlds beyond their vision, and better the world towards thoughts they could never grasp. I want to see smile bloom even in the most hopeless worlds, where villains and heroes put down their arms and sing along with the melody of life; this I will most certainly help achieve. Happiness is easy to find even in the most tragic times, but if you want to live a fulfilled life then set your aim higher than the apex of your imagination and race towards it like there's no tomorrow.

Thus way I like to call myself a Jack Of All Trades (and unfortunately, master of none).

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1051 on: August 23, 2011, 06:35:19 am »
I received a chain-mail, but quite an informative chain-mail, and thought you guys might find this to be an interesting read.


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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1052 on: August 26, 2011, 06:24:18 pm »

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1053 on: August 28, 2011, 04:22:38 pm »
This kid is a bro. Civil disobedience, gotta love it.



It is insanely ironic, and ignorant, that they banned Candide. That's the exact type of response that Voltaire was criticizing. It's also weird that they banned Canterbury Tales, Paradise Lost and the Divine Comedy. It seems that this school is more restrictive than the medieval and early modern Church was!

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1054 on: August 28, 2011, 06:12:38 pm »
Okay, so I can understand most people wouldn't wanna read Holy Quran (although the book is quite intriguing -- even more so than the Bible in some ways -- and the ban is discriminatory towards Muslims who want to read it) and The Hunger Games (the book is fucking awesome!), but ban Candide, Divine Comedy and Hitchhikers series? What kind of a retarded school is that?

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1055 on: August 28, 2011, 07:29:59 pm »
Those Canterbury Tales, man...pretty racy stuff. Good thing they're keeping that book away from all the high school students who happen to understand Middle English enough to be influenced by those "sondry folk."

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1056 on: August 28, 2011, 07:38:33 pm »
Good News: (Smile) Victory.  :) Victory of the commoners. Victory of the People, of Justice, and of the Good.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/28/us-india-corruption-fast-idUSTRE77R0N320110828

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Sipping coconut water and honey, a self-styled Gandhian anti-corruption reformer ended a hunger strike on its 13th day on Sunday, a protest that had sparked huge rallies across the country, exposed a weak government and ushered in a new middle-class political force.

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1057 on: August 28, 2011, 09:45:20 pm »
Whoa, so it worked? Congrats to the people of India on a job well done. Maybe we should try that here!

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1058 on: August 29, 2011, 06:03:29 am »

That's awesome. Perhaps the most awesome real-world black market I've read about in a long time. I checked the story out to make sure that the image you provided isn't doctored. Somebody actually did ask that question on Yahoo (about five years ago). Whether the story is true would take actual investigation, but it certainly is inspirational.

Judging by the banned book list, it's easy to say that this is one of those fundamentalist conservative Christian private schools. As cool as this story is, people at schools like that are pretty sorely outmatched. Even a black market library wouldn't make a difference to most of the pupils who participated in it. As for the bookrunner herself, I hope she went on to enjoy a satisfying college life and career...but even she may not have escaped the black vortex of radical Christian fascism. Hopefully, by having all those books in the first place, she has slightly less insane parents than your average pair of idiots who would subject their child to such a nightmare.

Whenever I see stories about people like this, I just want to hug them and say "There's a better place for people like you. Come tonight. We'll take the airship!" Then, a few years down the line, we'd liberate the town by force and close that "school" forever.

If only...

Edit: Fixed quote formatting error.
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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1059 on: August 29, 2011, 08:43:55 am »
Whoa, so it worked? Congrats to the people of India on a job well done. Maybe we should try that here!
Yeah! :D The reason it worked because the People's voice is greater than the Government, and we approached with love rather than spread hate. Most protests and mobs are mindless, either spreading hatred and accusations or destroying things here and there. But our revolution was a peaceful, sincere demand to end corruption once and for all, to bring change and glory. For that time, we were one outrageously huge family, and we enjoyed every moment of it.

It just goes to show that to bring good you don't have to be as wicked as the enemy, and you don't have to fight fire with fire; the government depends on the voice of the commoners, and this is one morality that drives Ulfus in Fleabane throughout. Gandhi is immortal, and his ideals shall live forever.

Judging by the banned book list, it's easy to say that this is one of those fundamentalist conservative Christian private schools. As cool as this story is, people at schools like that are pretty sorely outmatched. Even a black market library wouldn't make a difference to most of the pupils who participated in it. As for the bookrunner herself, I hope she went on to enjoy a satisfying college life and career...but even she may not have escaped the black vortex of radical Christian fascism. Hopefully, by having all those books in the first place, she has slightly less insane parents than your average pair of idiots who would subject their child to such a nightmare.

Whenever I see stories about people like this, I just want to hug them and say "There's a better place for people like you. Come tonight. We'll take the airship!" Then, a few years down the line, we'd liberate the town by force and close that "school" forever.
XD

I understand that many Christian schools help a lot by providing education to the poor, but radically fascist schools like this one is intolerable. This chick has become my hero.

Now, I want to make a database/blog of real-life Heroes of the Commons, and she'd be the first one in it. Ooh, how about we have a thread on that?
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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1060 on: August 30, 2011, 12:32:19 pm »
The fallout for her is going to be crazy if someone finds out. As Lord J said, she must have supportive parents, but that school's anything like what I'm familiar with she'll become a pariah. What an amazing thing to do.

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1061 on: August 30, 2011, 04:27:55 pm »
The fallout for her is going to be crazy if someone finds out. As Lord J said, she must have supportive parents, but that school's anything like what I'm familiar with she'll become a pariah. What an amazing thing to do.
I'll ask her permission then. So what if she's  (probably) younger than me? I want to honor and bow to individuals so daring and benevolent as them, and humbly offer my undying respect.

*hats off and bows*

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1062 on: August 30, 2011, 04:33:37 pm »
Oh no, tush, I wasn't responding to you, I was making general commentary.

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1063 on: September 01, 2011, 10:31:45 am »
Probably good news: I did it; I conquered my prejudice and took an empathetic, rational decision. I gave that smoking pauper a Two-Rupees Coin! And a slice of bread-and-butter.

Then again, the Ganesh festival is here and I shouldn't undermine its ethics. So in the spirit of this festival, I should take this as an opportunity and become a better person, a better human being. I may be against charity (I support actually teaching people to stand on their own feet) but I may as well start... somewhere.

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #1064 on: September 07, 2011, 02:54:51 am »
I was joking with my dad in our last weekly phone chat that I should go buy a book of stamps to help out the Postal Service, which I have known to be in rough straits. Now, a few days later, I read that the Postal Service is on the verge of collapse. Apparently they'll be unable to continue operating in about one year, without help from Congress. Of course, with the Tea Party in control of the House, Congress' "solution"--if it even bothers to craft one--will be to eviscerate the Postal Service if not privatize it entirely.

Our government can't even run the fucking post office...

I thought about doing one of those "Everybody on Facebook buy a book of stamps," but I crunched the numbers and it wouldn't make any difference.

I am not amused.