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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #165 on: June 16, 2007, 02:11:29 am »
One might even be tempted to point out, "Israel was right"...an observation preferably made from the comforts of Anywhere But The Middle East.

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #166 on: June 16, 2007, 02:14:30 am »
I, in fact, am tempted to say nuke the lot of them and let God sort 'em out, except that I would hate both the unnecessary loss of life and the destruction of the environment, and God--in any form--doesn't exist anyway, so...

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the entirely conflict is simply ridiculous. They should just split Israel in half--one half becoming Palestine again--with both Israel and Palestine having their own capital cities and with Jerusalem an international city-state a la The Vatican. That way, there is no issue.

But of course this is reasonable, so neither side will ever consider it. Both have too much hatred ingrained into their populaces...and all over the stupidest thing imaginable: religion.

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #167 on: June 16, 2007, 02:55:41 am »
Doubt halving it would work. Israel would need to expand it's land to support its growing population, and Palestine would just try and take it again. Wait, Palestine? Palestine isn't even a state, so we would need to sort that out as well. And Israel is a terrorist state, so that too. And anyway, when has halving a country ever worked before? Vietnam? Korea? *insert that annoying hello from myspace emoticon ads*
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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #168 on: June 16, 2007, 03:13:25 am »
Doubt halving it would work. Israel would need to expand it's land to support its growing population, and Palestine would just try and take it again. Wait, Palestine? Palestine isn't even a state, so we would need to sort that out as well. And Israel is a terrorist state, so that too. And anyway, when has halving a country ever worked before? Vietnam? Korea? *insert that annoying hello from myspace emoticon ads*

Well, it's not as if I'm saying we should just straight-half it down a line. Obviously we would need to take into account prior sovereignty--Palestine was a state until 1947 when the British exerted their power and created Israel out of Palestine--to determine specific areas for the Palestinians, as well as current circumstances so we do not simply abandon the current Israeli population. I am aware that this has been attempted--without success--but that is due to the Israelies attempting to prove some sort of soverignty that existed thousands of years ago, while the Palestinian sovereignty is not only proven, it is verfiable as recent enough to count. (After all, it's not as if we should start recognizing the soverignty of the Roman Empire, or Byzantium.)

Furthermore, I would not characterize Israel as a terrorist state, as the Israeli Defense Force is not in the habit of committing terrorist acts against other nations. What they do tend to do, however, is violently overreact to even the slightest Palestinian offense, to the point where in some instances it could be seen as terrorism. The problem here is, again, the hatred ruling the decision making.

Also, this situation is different from Vietnam or Korea as unlike those two cases, we are restoring a nation that did exist and should not have been destroyed by the interference of the British.

On the whole, it is a delicate situation. I emphasize with the people of both sides, as both sides have lost so many to such stupid hatred. I just want it to stop, in a way that benifits both sides without destroying one.

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #169 on: June 16, 2007, 06:51:47 am »
I don't really mean terrorist state as in a state that does terrorist acts; rather, a state that was created used terror, or something. I dunno, I heard it somewhere.

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #170 on: June 16, 2007, 07:03:09 am »
I don't really mean terrorist state as in a state that does terrorist acts; rather, a state that was created used terror, or something. I dunno, I heard it somewhere.
Even that wouldn't be quite accurate, unless you consider Gr eat Britain circa 1947 to be a terrorist organization.
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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #171 on: June 16, 2007, 07:14:46 am »
Meh, I can't explain it properly.

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #172 on: June 16, 2007, 04:19:42 pm »
Israel is already partitioned. Well, mostly. Israel has largely left the Palestinian areas, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, to themselves. Mind you, there is dispute, because both sides want Jerusalem, and there are Jewish settlers pushing into the Palestinian territories, but by and large Israel has already partitioned itself. It's not working out so well. I do like Kyronea's idea of making Jerusalem a stateless city, but the question is, would Israel and Palestine abide, because if they didn't, we'd be back at square one.

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #173 on: June 17, 2007, 03:50:36 am »
We'd make them abide :twisted:

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #174 on: June 17, 2007, 03:52:05 am »
We'd make them abide :twisted:
How? Israel has one of the most powerful militaries in the world, is one of the few nations with nuclear weaponry, has a huge number of scientists working in all sorts of important industries, and is generally really tough to beat. After all, they've been set upon by all of the neighboring countries more than once, and they've not only held their ground, but gained some.

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #175 on: June 18, 2007, 08:21:12 am »
Um, with our jedi knights and aswesomo brain powers.

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #176 on: June 19, 2007, 10:03:06 pm »
Jedi Knights and Awesomeo Brain Powers are pretty much the same deal, eh?

What you forgot was a nice, overwhelming flow of drugs. That'll teach 'em! >_> Wait, what was the discussion?

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #177 on: June 21, 2007, 03:27:41 pm »
Special Extra Language Edition

Adults can't speak fucking English, form coherent thoughts, or god forbid use correct punctuation, spelling, or grammar. Lo and behold, it's becoming a real problem in the corporate world:

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"hI KATHY i am sending u the assignmnet again," one student wrote to her recently. "i had sent you the assignment earlier but i didnt get a respond. If u get this assgnment could u please respond . thanking u for ur cooperation."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/07/business/07write.html?ei=5090&en=6c4f3a02432550f0&ex=1260075600&pagewanted=print&position=

The fastest way to belittle yourself in written communication, besides expressing something obscene, is to use broken English.

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"People think that throwing multiple exclamation points into a business letter will make their point forcefully," Ms. Andrews said. "I tell them they're allowed two exclamation points in their whole life."
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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #178 on: June 21, 2007, 04:03:42 pm »
Jun. 21, 2007


Dear ZeaLitY:

Two?!!

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Re: Humanity: Good News, Bad News
« Reply #179 on: June 21, 2007, 04:06:08 pm »
You should know, with your MegaZillion Corp's exorbitant $5 charge per extra point!