Spekkio...

[Legend of the Past]

It's totally my baseless interpretation, but I think that if Spekkio would kill Lavos, he will die too... He's as strong as the person beholding him right? so if the beholder dies, he dies too! That would explain why he never faced Lavos or never actually killed the party (no game over when you lose to him).

Ah... You'd figure that Spekkio would be willing to give his life for the future, but NOOOOOO, gotta watch your god of war-ly ass. >_>

[Chrono'99]

Still should have included the scouring of the shire. Anyway, I think Spekkio is a spirit. That would explain his ability to change shape. Is Spekkio really a "god", Although it would explain a lot it still would raise up questions. Infact I wonder how he got in the end of time anyway.

I think that Spekkio is Gaspar's dream.

[Legend of the Past]

I think the Dream Spirit things are exclusive to Melchior, him being the Guru of Life and all.

[Chrono'99]

The sleeping Acacia Dragoon and the Black Dragon both created dream spirits (Turnip and Marbule's Black Dream), and none of them were Gurus.

[Zaperking]

The sleeping Acacia Dragoon and the Black Dragon both created dream spirits (Turnip and Marbule's Black Dream), and none of them were Gurus.

But the Acacia Dragoon's could have been because of the split and the Black Dragon was having a nightmare... And it all later dissapeared.

[AuraTwilight]

It's totally my baseless interpretation, but I think that if Spekkio would kill Lavos, he will die too... He's as strong as the person beholding him right? so if the beholder dies, he dies too! That would explain why he never faced Lavos or never actually killed the party (no game over when you lose to him).

and that's why he still exists when there's no one beholding him, right? I think he'd just return to his normal form (whatever it is) if he killed Lavos. Unless there's a witness to the battle. The reason he doesn't kill the party is because he's not EVIL! Fuck The What?

[Chrono'99]

The sleeping Acacia Dragoon and the Black Dragon both created dream spirits (Turnip and Marbule's Black Dream), and none of them were Gurus.

But the Acacia Dragoon's could have been because of the split and the Black Dragon was having a nightmare... And it all later dissapeared.

Whatever is the reason for the Acacia Dragoon, the result is still here: he managed to create a living, talking turnip out of thin air, just by sleeping. And guess what is Gaspar doing in the End of Time? He's sleeping *hint hint*

As for the Black Dragon, he wasn't "just having a nightmare", he was having a nightmare. He sleept and from his dreams some Lagoonates materialized. Oh and, they disappear because you frigging defeat them one by one in battle...

It's totally my baseless interpretation, but I think that if Spekkio would kill Lavos, he will die too... He's as strong as the person beholding him right? so if the beholder dies, he dies too! That would explain why he never faced Lavos or never actually killed the party (no game over when you lose to him).

and that's why he still exists when there's no one beholding him, right? I think he'd just return to his normal form (whatever it is) if he killed Lavos. Unless there's a witness to the battle. The reason he doesn't kill the party is because he's not EVIL! Fuck The What?

How do you know he's still there when there's no one to behold him? He claims that he looks like the beholder, so it's legitimate to think that no beholder = no Spekkio. Spekkio means mirror in Italian by the way.

[AuraTwilight]

Because he's there every time you visit him, and you're the only one who observes him in the game. It's not like he dissapears, then reappears when visited. That's just stupid.

[Durakken]

he may be a Nu from one of the eras...remember there is one that doesn't have a second gate. Also it's probable he's a Nu cuz Nus have been around for a lnog time and are very powerful

[ChronoMagus]

...Frankly I always viewed Nus at the same significance as Alfador.  A novelty.  Speekio could be like one of those boggart things...  A shape of constant flux when there is nothing else.

[Magus22]

Speekio could be like one of those boggart things...  A shape of constant flux when there is nothing else.

Speaking about constant flux, though this may be off topic . . . is there any relation to what you're saying here with what had happened in CT, the sealed door in Geno Dome where you "turned" the Nu off?

"This creature sleeps beyond the flow of time"

Perhaps Nu's keep the balance of everything on this planet in sync. It provides evidence as to why they're always hiding and sleeping. It was just a thought though, but, going back to my first question. Is there any relation or significance with this constant flux and Nu's?

[GreenGannon]

Regarding boggarts, it was never stated that they were in a constant flux when no one was around. It was stated that no one knew what one looked like alone.

[Zaperking]

Spekkio (Specchio) is supposedly derived from Latin meaning reflection or mirror.

(in regards to what Chrono'99 posted earlier).

[GreenGannon]

The sleeping Acacia Dragoon and the Black Dragon both created dream spirits (Turnip and Marbule's Black Dream), and none of them were Gurus.

Or were they?

DUN DUN DUN

No, but seriously, I don't think those really count along the same vein as Melchior's. Both Turnip and the Black Dragon existed in a universe with a dimensional distortion. I think that factored into it heavily. With a single dimension, I doubt anybody besides those with exceptional power would be able to create one.

[Chrono'99]

No, but seriously, I don't think those really count along the same vein as Melchior's. Both Turnip and the Black Dragon existed in a universe with a dimensional distortion. I think that factored into it heavily. With a single dimension, I doubt anybody besides those with exceptional power would be able to create one.

The Gurus are precisely people with exceptional power. Melchior didn't create one, didn't create two, but created THREE of those dream beings. And Belthasar did the whole stuff that he did in CC. So it's not an impossible stretch to think that Gaspar had enough power to create a creature that does nothing beside dancing restlessly in a room in the middle of nowhere... Gaspar wasn't connected to 2 dimensions, but he did have an eternity to do his stuff.