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The Slaughter of Life: A September 11 Story
« on: September 23, 2006, 09:52:28 am »
Something troubled me yesterday. I went to bed strangely quiet, in the wee hours of the morning, and for a long while I stared straight up at the dark ceiling of my apartment with wide open eyes. In fact, I was dumbfounded: I had just heard somebody die.

On September 11, 2001, on Floor 105 of No. 2 World Trade Center, in New York City, there was a man named Kevin Cosgrove. He was trapped in an office with two other people, trapped by a raging fire and suffocating black smoke. But it wasn’t the fire that killed him. He had called 911, and had remained on the line with an emergency dispatcher until about one second after the tower began to collapse. His last known words were “Oh God! Oh—”

The audio transcript is just under five minutes. It was played at the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui. Some of you don’t know who that is. You probably had better things to pay attention to than politics and the news.

Five minutes. I knew from the beginning that this man would die; it said so in the synopsis of the video. But knowing what would happen only made it harder, not easier, to watch. Mr. Cosgrove yelled. He argued. He sobbed. He said he had just called his wife to tell her he was fine, and was on his way out when the second plane struck the World Trade Center. He said he wasn’t ready to die. Then he died anyway. In the last second, you can hear the tower collapsing all around him.




My heart was pounding at the end. I could feel it in my throat. In my mind's eye I could see every detail. My chair at my desk felt too constraining, so I stood up and stretched out.

It troubled me to hear that man die. It was already almost five o’clock in the morning, so I put on the Prelude from Final Fantasy IX, brushed my teeth and had a glass of water, and then turned it all off and went to bed—where I lay on my back, staring at something that wasn’t my ceiling after all.

All of us have seen the video of the airplane collisions and the towers collapsing. Some of you have probably imagined, like I did, all the people who died in the instant the planes struck the buildings—the ones in the airplanes who were incinerated, and the ones in the offices who were blown apart in the same instant. Perhaps some of them near the windows had one or two seconds of explosive terror.

Then there were all the people who died less quickly, surviving the initial impact but not living long enough for the towers to collapse. Some died of massive trauma, maybe a few by heart attack, many by fire, and others from jumping out of one of the tallest buildings on Earth, without a parachute.

Finally, there were those who held on until the end…until their whole world shattered around them, and took them with it. In that moment when Kevin Cosgrove’s line went dead, dozens of other people died with him, and hundreds more in the seconds that followed. Maybe a few survived the actual collapse long enough to die in agony. Probably not.

Those people were all murdered.

Unlike many of you who enjoy first-person shooters and give no second thought to murder on television and in the movies, I find it hard to lose myself in that stuff. It makes me think of the waste, the tragedy, the terror, the fear, the loss…and the real thing.

As for the real thing, I have a hard time with it. I listened to Kevin Cosgrove die. Last year I watched a security video of a gang mob drag a terrified woman out of a car and beat her to death—on eBaum’s world, no less. I watched terrorists behead Nicholas Berg. I saw them holding his head at the end. I watched people die in Katrina, floating in the cess, and I saw the beaches clogged with dead bodies after the tsunami of 2004. Not least, I have seen pictures of a few of the hundred thousand people who have died in Iraq since we liberated that country in 2003. I posted one of those pictures in a topic here the other day. My point was proven; nobody remarked on how gruesome that was, other than one person to say that, no Josh, it wasn’t all that gruesome.

Some of you who are not American have made the point that September 11 is exaggerated; that the death and destruction does not jive with the huge impact it had on the American psyche. That’s actually a quite remarkably astute point—except exactly backwards. Americans didn’t care about September 11 too much. Everybody cares about most everything else too little.

President Bush said that September 11 changed everything. I doubt that. It changed the United States into a militaristic nation, but that was Bush’s doing. Terrorism was merely a good excuse, in the right place at the right time. I think the only thing September 11 really changed was, for a brief hour, American people’s awareness of death, destruction, and the two of those paired together: the slaughter of life. It was as though the entire world shook—nothing is forever, anything can be destroyed, nobody is safe, everything changes, simplicity is a lie, certainty is a delusion—and then calmed down again. September 11 gave the American people a small taste of the terrific power of reality.

The people fell back asleep soon enough—as well I expected. I have no delusions about how far away from enlightenment most people are. That the Republicans established one-party rule thereafter was just rubbing it in.

The human psyche, when uninhibited by critical thought or circumstantial duress, is a remarkably simplistic entity. Having just witnessed the most destructive terrorist attack in American history, we wanted more bloodshed. Lots more. Nukes, guns, knives, bare hands…whatever. Kill anyone who even remotely looks like a terrorist, a Muslim, or an Arab. Vengeance, almost the simplest emotion there is. Your heinous deed was unspeakable, but my heinous deed in response will be glorious. It was a perfectly awful start to the 21st century.

But what is even worse is that vengeance, fear, hatred, bullying, and prejudice were the only lasting lessons that most Americans took from our brush with doom. And, with a little help from our uncannily representative government, we proceeded to respond to September 11 in the worst possible way. We took vengeance on people who had done nothing to us. We are responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths—dozens of September 11ths all over again. Elsewhere across the globe we browbeat our allies into submission, earning an enmity that will not soon fade. In our enemies’ castles, we inspired a whole new generation of terrorists, some of whom may someday achieve further attacks against us. Back at home, we consented to a dictatorship in the name of security. Civil liberties went on the decline, as did popular support for them. Fascism and policing shot up. Most ironically, we cemented a government who fought and continues to fight a self-declared “war on terror” by making us live in fear.

What should we have done instead?

I’ll tell you what I did. On September 11, 2006, I went to the fair.

I had a good day. The last time I had visited a fair was as a little kid, and it was nowhere near the size of this one. I laughed. I walked. I contemplated the beautiful artwork from school kids across the State of Washington. I marveled at dozens of miracle products in the pavilions. I visited the cows and sheep and the goats. I gawked at pumpkins many times my weight. I slid down the big slide, turned my knuckles white on the roller coasters, closed my eyes on the Ferris wheel ride, gulped down the grease-rich fair food, watched my girlfriend play an accordion, sat in on a horse show, rode the sky cars, spun around, watched glasswork being made, ran my hand across fresh wood sculpture, and found about seventy million Jacuzzis for sale.

I had a good day. I only thought about September 11, 2001, in the furthest recesses of my mind, not counting a few minutes in the morning as I e-mailed my office to excuse myself from work that day.

I am not a pacifist. I think the slaughter of life can be a legitimate tool for a just cause, and not necessarily as only a last resort. Perhaps that’s strange to hear from somebody who was saying just a few paragraphs ago that he isn’t desensitized to murder in movies and games. But it makes sense when you think about it: I simply realize the gravity that slaughter entails.

What we should have done after September 11—what Captain Picard would have done—is give a speech to the American people and to all the world, reminding us why we aren’t terrorists, why we don’t need to be terrorists, and why we would not become terrorists. We should have brought the massive firepower of our ship of state to bear upon only one enemy: Afghanistan. And we should have made sure the blows were delivered with brutal effect, and sent down an away team to set things right in the aftermath. We should have left that place with a better future ahead…for their people and ours. And then we should have put our phasers to rest, and set about dealing with our grief, and reconstruction.

But Captain Picard and George Dubya Bush do not belong in the same sentence, and the American people are yesterday’s troglodytes rather than tomorrow’s Starfleet officers. Our enemies are less prone to fits of reason and open-mindedness, and our guns have slept not even once in five years.

What I was wondering last night, as I lay in the darkness and stared off into the distance, was whether a murder is any less important because we have no awareness of it, and how wide a gulf there is between people’s complacency and cold reality. If all of the faults and failures of civilization could be packaged into a single metaphor, I would say that the inmates are running the asylum. People simply do not realize the gravity of events or the consequences of their actions. Moreover, they do not care, either. If Pearl Harbor symbolized our rise as a superpower, September 11 symbolizes our decadence. What comes next depends upon us.

We can begin by voting the Republican Party out of office and demanding some initiative from the Democrats who take over. The GOP is a zombie, controlled by two simultaneous cancers: neoconservatism and Christian fundamentalism. The Democratic Party, in comparison, can be reasoned with. So it is to them we shall, I hope, take our entreaties this November. Let us hope they show greater wisdom in the majority than they have in the minority.

I mentioned at the beginning that some of you had better things to do than know about Zacarias Moussaoui. That, of course, was a figure of speech, and a veiled insult upon you. It is your apathy, and cynicism, and ignorance, that feeds into the very same political dysfunction you so despise. I tell you this: If the government doesn’t work, it is your fault. In a democracy, the people are king. That means the people are responsible for the conduct of this nation. You want to live in this world the way it is? No? Then, as Celes Chere said, do something about it. I see a great and shining future ahead of us, but we have a long way to go.

So begin where you can. Begin by giving a care. It won’t cost you a cent! Read the news, like ZeaLitY has been doing. You can read it online, up to the minute. Learn more about the world around you. Try to understand things, and think more critically about your assumptions in life. Seek out the enlightenment of the Enterprise. Take in the arts and the sciences that abound on every side of you. And contemplate the slaughter of life by which all our accomplishments are weighed. What you do with this wealth of knowledge…is your choice.

Kevin Cosgrove was sealed into a fate that left him no choice whatsoever. He was murdered by the ignorance, simple-mindedness, and blind faith of two clashing cultures. He didn’t deserve what he got, and neither did his family. His death was horrifying to witness. But I think you should hear it for yourself. Go listen to it, and try to remember that moment when the world shook, and our tallest towers fell.

Except, this time, look for another way out. Your fate remains to be seen.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2006, 10:06:25 am by Lord J esq »

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Re: The Slaughter of Life: A September 11 Story
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2006, 10:15:15 am »
An epilogue…

Should we really expose ourselves to the final moments of others, fortuitously caught on tape or film? Is that not a violation of their privacy, and, more importantly, their dignity? What about these people’s families? What about our own integrity? If you read some of the discussion going on at places like YouTube on the Kevin Cosgrove video pages, you’ll see some disgusting remarks.

In reply to those questions of morality, I just want to say one thing, which is the entire reason I began this conversation in the first place:

Everybody should be exposed to this. The morality questions are irrelevant. We need to see the consequences of each other’s actions. We need to stop ignoring death, and destruction, and the slaughter of life. We need to understand what reality is. We need our hearts to pound.

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Re: The Slaughter of Life: A September 11 Story
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2006, 01:47:16 pm »
What we should have done after September 11—what Captain Picard would have done—is give a speech to the American people and to all the world, reminding us why we aren’t terrorists, why we don’t need to be terrorists, and why we would not become terrorists. We should have brought the massive firepower of our ship of state to bear upon only one enemy: Afghanistan. And we should have made sure the blows were delivered with brutal effect, and sent down an away team to set things right in the aftermath. We should have left that place with a better future ahead…for their people and ours. And then we should have put our phasers to rest, and set about dealing with our grief, and reconstruction.

But Captain Picard and George Dubya Bush do not belong in the same sentence, and the American people are yesterday’s troglodytes rather than tomorrow’s Starfleet officers. Our enemies are less prone to fits of reason and open-mindedness, and our guns have slept not even once in five years.

I really wish we did have someone like Jean-Luc Picard around. Hopefully, our century will be like the time line of Star Treks in which everyone will stop hurting each other, we will unite, and combine efforts to build a better tomorrow. There is no crime, no wants (replicators) and famine and just about nothing negative. There time line had a WW3, a eugenics war of super humans. I am sure one mad scientist will experiment on suchs worthless endeavors too.

Anyways, along side everything good, they still had conflicts and enemies . . . and new friends to make. The federation of planets is kind of like our United Nations, minus space travel and what not. Overall peace will never ensue. I don't even know how that would work. Everyone lay down arms and open their borders for everyone? Then again, if we were to get rid of military and our arms and missiles, use the technology and resources for say space travel and programs, combine our efforts, and quickly get the poor and needy people of 3rd world countries to our level, educate them, get rid of the money system, so EVERYONE could prosper and get involved with anything they'd like to try. I really wish that someday money would be abolished, we stop killing each other and talking about who has more nukes than the other and such.

Picard is the ambassador of humanity. If someone like him were to arise in the near future, I wish I would be able to support and follow that individual, I wish I could live that long to see it happen and many other things...

Everybody should be exposed to this. The morality questions are irrelevant. We need to see the consequences of each other’s actions. We need to stop ignoring death, and destruction, and the slaughter of life. We need to understand what reality is. We need our hearts to pound.

Yes I agree. Even though for some certain people it wouldn't be nessecary, this is the reality of it whether we like it or not. People got burned to bits, squashed like pancakes, fell from hundreds of stories to pavement and various other ways of death that day. It's fate and destiny. We are fated to die someday and these individuals obviously were. Everything eventually dies in the Universe, it's only a matter of time.

Lord J, it took me forever to read your post :), but it's awesome!!

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Re: The Slaughter of Life: A September 11 Story
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2006, 04:44:49 pm »
Barring that miraculous and intelligent coming together, we'd only reach a Starfleet state via some massive conflict like that. I believe that's why Roddenberry chose to have a World War 3. It was the turbulent coming of age for humanity.

Just to contrast, when Bush was first able to express himself on Airforce 1 after hearing of the conflict, he said something like, "time to kick their asses. no more of this slap on the wrist crap." Picard would have probably sunken back in the captain's chair somewhat and said "oh dear." And then he would have given orders.

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Re: The Slaughter of Life: A September 11 Story
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2006, 05:58:03 pm »
Dead people no longer have any integrity or dignity. They're dead after all. Perhaps if it's the wishes of the family or what-not, I could see it that way, but c'mon, once you're dead, you're done.

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Re: The Slaughter of Life: A September 11 Story
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2006, 12:31:48 am »
You have a way with words, and you can really trigger emotion Lord J. At least we are lucky that we don't have to hear what the Japanese said in their dying moments of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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Re: The Slaughter of Life: A September 11 Story
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2006, 02:52:41 pm »
Barring that miraculous and intelligent coming together, we'd only reach a Starfleet state via some massive conflict like that. I believe that's why Roddenberry chose to have a World War 3. It was the turbulent coming of age for humanity.

Just to contrast, when Bush was first able to express himself on Airforce 1 after hearing of the conflict, he said something like, "time to kick their asses. no more of this slap on the wrist crap." Picard would have probably sunken back in the captain's chair somewhat and said "oh dear." And then he would have given orders.

You know, I could draw direct imagery from that statement in relation to Wolf 359. If Picard had not been assimilated and had stayed on board the entire time, witnessing the distress call from the admiral, and upon arrival into the system . . . I can just see his character sinking back into his chair. In a low tone he would order Data to scan for life signs and then to scan the debris and area for any traces of the borg ship.

Lord J, I agree 100% with BZ. You really do know how to enable individuals to open their eyes to the facts.

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Re: The Slaughter of Life: A September 11 Story
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2006, 07:49:59 am »
Quote~Magus22

I really wish we did have someone like Jean-Luc Picard around. Hopefully, our century will be like the time line of Star Treks in which everyone will stop hurting each other, we will unite, and combine efforts to build a better tomorrow. There is no crime, no wants (replicators) and famine and just about nothing negative. There time line had a WW3, a eugenics war of super humans. I am sure one mad scientist will experiment on suchs worthless endeavors too.


Wow after listening to that phone call and all i started think about that day hella wow....
Anyway about the quote i agree with you all the way. But I think too before our time line starts to change we need another apocalyptic event and in the aftermath of all of that destruction comes something prosperous. When I saw the two towers fall I was certain something of that mangnitude would bring toughether or at least soften the some of the  heart of alot human beings, then again after that tsunamii.
 
Anyway I wanna quote Data. LoL .

"It is an historical irony that Dr. Cochrane would choose an instrument of mass destruction to inaugurate am era pf peace."   
                                                Data First Contact.

That in the Fictitious Star Trek universe WW3 caused mass Global changes but not only this.. but the founding of Advance [one that could rival humans] Alien life and that humans must first unite themselves before uniting planets.

So also iono if there is or not because i believe in Jesus Christ but the bible says that god will not reveal his whole plan to us. But maybe if we find any source of alien[it could be as simple as microorganisms on another planet but it will prove that there are aliens. That would have a drastic change on the way some people believe and their faith[Islam and Christian Alike]. Thus making it possible to forgive and forget...im kinda reffering to the Crusaders and the whole invasion of the ME back then...isn't that why they have a grudge against us right...? and the freedom of our women ... but anyway it would show that there way of life is wrong and that we all should be treated equal and until that day comes I wonder if there will be even a small chance of peace without many bloody wars.

Anyway that is my thoughts... Now Ima goto sleep i gotta wake up at 8:00 Am and its 3:49 AM lol!

Gnight..

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Re: The Slaughter of Life: A September 11 Story
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2006, 12:08:16 pm »
I know who Zacarias Moussaoui is. He's the one who smiled when he heard it. He's the monster who we should have killed when we first found him, instead of giving him a trial. No terrorist deserves a trial. They're guilty by heart. My God, your God, even his God knows that.

I'm sorry if I come off as angry, I just listened to the audio. My hands are shaking real bad, and tears are just rolling down my eyes, and now I have to get ready to go to school. I just wish I could lie down and sleep right now (It's 8:00 AM here).

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Re: The Slaughter of Life: A September 11 Story
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2006, 11:44:24 pm »
Despite the horrible events of that day, we cannot let emotion rule our behavior. We are all under the law. Everybody charged with a crime deserves their day in court. The success of this philosophy of the rule of law is one of the reasons we are not still living in the dark ages. Our quality of life relies upon this.

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Re: The Slaughter of Life: A September 11 Story
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2006, 05:33:32 pm »
Despite the horrible events of that day, we cannot let emotion rule our behavior.

Why not?

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Re: The Slaughter of Life: A September 11 Story
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2006, 02:24:53 am »
Despite the horrible events of that day, we cannot let emotion rule our behavior.

Why not?

If you were anybody else, I would have taken that as a serious question. But, for you, "just 'cause."

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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2006, 04:35:15 am »
Well, I take that as a serious question. Really, why not? Because then we get rule by vendetta and vengeance. If we let emotions rule our actions of justice, we get the law of the Furies, where blood shed demands blood shed, till all are dead and none live to take vengeance. The Furies are insatiate of blood. And though they are a mere myth, the concept that stands with them - the haunt of vengeance - is real enough, and acts in the selfsame manner. And the thing is, just cause is no excuse for vengeful murder. Here is an interesting case, Aeschylus' Oresteia. Firstly, the house of Pelops is rather a nasy one to begin with. But let's skip down to Agamemnon. This hero sacrifices his daughter Iphigenaia. Why? Because Aretmis demands it. In some accounts, Agamemnon had done something wrong; in Aeschylus, he was innocent. He did nothing, but for the ships to sail for Troy, the demand of Zeus, he had to kill his daughter, the demand of Artemis. Talk about a rock and a hard place! The gods demanded he do some evil thing. So he sacrificed his daughter. But get this! The gods judge that he is to pay for that evil action - forget that they made him do it! Anyway, his wife Klytemnestra and her lover Agisthus (cousin of Agamemnon) kill him when he returns from Troy. The queen Klytemnestra does not hide her action, but stands bloody axe in hand over the dead body of the hero, saying 'I struck' and vindicates herself as the avenging fury for the death of her daughter. She had cause and right to kill her husband. And yes, she did. But then Orestes, her son, comes back from exile, and kills her to avenge his father. He, too, claims right and justice. And he did have right and justice. Nonetheless, his mother's Furies hound him, driving him mad. Vengeance, what a bloody thing you are! But this triliogy of tragedy ends well, for the hero Orestes flees to Athens, where a murder trial - he defended by the god Apollo (who, in fact, forced him to revenge his father in the first place), and condemned by the Furies - presided over by Athena, aquits him. Impartial justice, the province of the bright, new, Olympian gods, takes precidence over the old, dark, bloodthirsty gods of vengeance, the Furies. That is why we need a justice system, and why emotion and perception of right cannot be a part of it.

You see, this is one of the baseline problems with terrorists. They work on the concept of an eye for an eye, blood for blood. They truly think themselves vindicated in their actions, and have no concept of impartial justice.

Oh, and I've not yet listened to the clip, but...
from what you've been saying, the one thing I must say is, my fervent hope is that, were I in such a situation, I would not act thus. That I would have the compsure and strength of spirit to laugh at death. My belief usually is that a fear of death is a deficiency, clinging too much to some unfulfilled portion of life. Someone who is truly fulfilled in life wouldn't fear to die, and the horror is not in the death, but in the prior life that was wasted. Every time I see a movie with people saying 'I don't want to die!' I hope in my inward heart that such a fearful word will not pass my lips, nor thought enter my mind. If others think thus, so be it - I won't grudge them that, and will feel pity for it... in some measure. But tragedy I view not as a Eurpides, but a Sophocles. I am not one to weep and feel pain for the anguish of humanity; I do not feel heartsore at the wrongs of the world, and say 'why must it be thus' ; I think 'it is thus' and feel rather it must be borne. Not submissively! True, struggle and fight to the last, but nobly and with majestic spirit (that is my ideal, not my accomplishment, by the way) and accept end and fate as it is dealt. Let it be to me as is fated, I will do my best. That is more my spirit. As for the evils, so it is - I will struggle against it, but say 'so it must be' nonetheless. Good people fall; the evil prosper; am I to judge the fairness of that? When I complain about it, I am not justified, for I complain of a spirit ignorant of fate. What can a creature of a day say to condemn the world's clockwork, as though I had God's own eyes and mind? I do not know why the likes of Oedipus are ruined; why Ajax is destroyed. Is God so capricious, dealing lots without care? Maybe, or not. Who am I to question what must be? If I myself were to fall ruined, may I not even in that worst hour say 'what has heaven done to me?' - may I never cry 'why me?' or 'what have I done to deserve this?'... that only cheapens what good there is in life. Onward and forward, though fate be my destroyer.

Ah, of course, likely as not such stoic ideals would fail me in the direst of straights. I was merely expressing my wish. A wish that I never beg for my life, not from another, nor from fate. People these days... they look to me like Euripides. They say things like 'how terrible tihs is' and 'this is heart-wrenching' and sure enough, there is a place for that. But I see the pathos of this - I will not call it tragedy, for only if this man had stood fast had the requirement of tragedy been filled, but it is of deep sadness and emotion, hence pathos - in a slightly different way, my first inclination not to feel sorrow at the lot of the world, but more... melancholy. That's it. Take even your title, Lord J. 'The Slaughter of Life'... that's more Euripidean tragedy. Sophocles wouldn't put it so; I wouldn't have headered a topic so strongly. I would have been more prone to write something about... bloody fortune, or something like that. Fortune, fate, the rule and order of the world, is to me more interesting than people are. Individuals... they are lesser than the grand spectacle into which they step. You must certainly see it differently, more the individual... for which I am continually likening it to Euripides. Which is not meant neccessarially as a bad thing, I must add.

Do not think me cold-hearted. Or maybe do. Maybe I am. I am rarely driven to be overertly emotional for others - usually only my own issues drive me to it. I never once shed a tear when my grandmother or grandfather died. Nor did I feel any strong emotion of sadness. From others I am, at this time, rather detached, I suppose. And if I were to feel too much sorrow, you can be sure I would chastise myself for a weak spirit.
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Re: The Slaughter of Life: A September 11 Story
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2006, 04:58:22 am »
I think you will soften if not reverse much of that once you actually hear the clip. I'm not an emotional person, but anybody who isn't moved by that audio is sadly bereft of something important.

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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2006, 05:10:15 am »
I think you will soften if not reverse much of that once you actually hear the clip. I'm not an emotional person, but anybody who isn't moved by that audio is sadly bereft of something important.

I'll listen to it tomorrow. Oh, and I'm sure I'll feel something. I mean, movies and music and all do stir emotions in me. It's just my inclination in that isn't towards thinking like... well, like I outlined. Actually, I can be moved even by, well, an old grainy black and white version of Antigone, with the destroyed character of Kreon walking out onto the stage, having unmeaningly killed Antigone, his son, and his wife, and saying 'I am afraid'. I guess... it depends. Certain things do, certain don't. But I guess one thing I'm not taken to is to lament too much in things like this, in death - I tend to lament things in life more. It's the same thing when I hear of people being traumatized, I think 'I earnestly hope I'm not that weak of spirit', because that's how I see it. My grandmother who was in a concentration camp always scoffs at the counselling people get for merely having been in a stressful situation (being directly connected to the World Trade Centre thing is of course different; I'm talking far more minor events). She says, she saw people dying and being beated all around her, and she never had a counsellor. She turned out fine. And I think there's something to that. We tend to focus too much on grieving and on feeling bad in our culture. Maybe that's part of the reason the 9/11 hit the US so hard.