Four Lavos Questions

[doulifee]

The latest time you can fight Lavos is 1999 AD (or else the Day of Lavos will still have occurred). When you fight the shell, Lavos imitates various bosses from the game. One of those bosses is Guardian from 2300 AD. If the Lavos battle takes place at any earlier time it imitates bosses from 1000 AD, etc. Also, if you defeat Lavos’ Shell at one time, and then gate to the past and fight it again, the Shell is still dead.

Could it be possible to lavos to have a second options ? being able of read the memory of the character who have already defeated the boss?[

[Hunter X]

If Lavos can't attack with its head destroyed, how does he still destroy the world in 1999 AD if the core beats Crono & Co.?

Lavos has demonstrated the ability to do so.  Its true power resides within the core, which would be unharmed.

Wait a minute... if the Spawn are produced with cores equivalent in advancement to Lavos's, then why is it that they seem to shut down once you destroy the head of the Shell? I mean, I know Lavos's core truly controls every part of the creature, but why do the Spawn seem unable to do this?

Keep in mind that the source of the cores power came from observing time. Seeing how the spawn were alive for no more then 300 years (short amount of time compared to how much time lavos observed) the core may have had such a little amount of power it could not survive with out the shell.

[doulifee]

they are just baby, that why they are found near death peak (near theyre mother's body)

[GrayLensman]

Copied from GameFAQs.

1.)  In 65 million BC, Lavos impacted the surface of the earth at meteoric speed, creating a fireball that covered most of the continent and caused a global climactic change that lasted for millions of years.  This explosion is similar to the K-T Meteor impact, which is estimated to have released energy equivalent to 100 trillion Tons of TNT.

For comparison, the most powerful hydrogen bomb ever produced had a yield of 50 million Tons, and the total world nuclear arsenal has a combined yield of approximately 5 billion Tons.  The explosion of Krakatoa, the most violent volcanic eruption in recorded history, released energy equivalent to 200 million Tons.

Lavos, a biological organism, survived this impact with no apparent injury.

2.)  In 1999 AD, Lavos destroyed the surface of the earth in preparation for reproduction.  It caused sufficient damage to destroy human civilization and significantly change the geography of the planet.  This required several orders of magnitude more energy than was released in Lavos' impact, which was produced (presumably) by its magical power alone.


3.)  Lavos also destroyed the Zeal Kingdom, the Black Omen and Magus' Castle (?) using magic attacks equivalent to many millions of Tons of TNT.

[ZeaLitY]

Saw that post; starx and the lord's other than JEsq who've popped up recently seem to be debating regularly on both boards. Lensman, just curious from recent activity -- have you found an internet solution?

[GrayLensman]

The evidence suggests that the Darkness Beyond Time, and hence the Time Devourer, is common to all dimensions.  I hypothesize that the TD is the embodiment of all versions of Lavos and Schala which are sent to the DBT (i.e. the TD is a composite entity arising from infinite dimensions).  This eliminates the possibility that multiple Time Devourer's could exist.

If there can only be one Time Devourer for infinite dimensions, the probability that Project Kid would be successful in at least one dimension approaches unity.  However outlandish Belthazar's plan, his success was inevitable.

[Sentenal]

I just have a few questions about this theory:

You refer to the Guardian serveral times in relation to Lavos being knowledgable about the future.  We can assume that the Guardian was not constructed after 1999.  The Guardian was probably made before 1999, thus giving Lavos complete knowledge of it without having to know the future...  Would this even matter to your theory?

And about Lavos existing in his pocket dimension during the Day of Lavos, yet people could see it from the outside, yet only looking through to its dimension.  Doesn't the game imply that it must have been physically present in the world during that time?  I mean, we do see the Earth's crust start cracking, and then Lavos burst through it and shells the planet with God knows what to destroy it.  If Lavos simply existed in his pocket dimension during this time, why would the game show him bursting from the ground, which would have required his physical presence to do so?

[Zaperking]

Isn't the attack that he shells onto the planet called "Rain from the Heavens" or something?

Oh and I thought that Lavos' core gained power by sucking the Planets power, not by observing time. That'd be pretty boring...

[Sentenal]

he probably got his power by a combination of the 2...

[SilentMartyr]

And about Lavos existing in his pocket dimension during the Day of Lavos, yet people could see it from the outside, yet only looking through to its dimension.  Doesn't the game imply that it must have been physically present in the world during that time?  I mean, we do see the Earth's crust start cracking, and then Lavos burst through it and shells the planet with God knows what to destroy it.  If Lavos simply existed in his pocket dimension during this time, why would the game show him bursting from the ground, which would have required his physical presence to do so?

Most likely Lavos could not have done the damage to the whole planet in its Pocket dimension. Considering it is probably only large enough to encompass it and some extra space, I doubt it could have fit the entire planet in there. So it had to leave that to be able to attack the planet.

[Sentenal]

Yes, he would have had to leave that, but thats when Crono and co. attack him, after he burst through the ground.

[GrayLensman]

I just have a few questions about this theory:

You refer to the Guardian several times in relation to Lavos being knowledgable about the future.  We can assume that the Guardian was not constructed after 1999.  The Guardian was probably made before 1999, thus giving Lavos complete knowledge of it without having to know the future...  Would this even matter to your theory?

And about Lavos existing in his pocket dimension during the Day of Lavos, yet people could see it from the outside, yet only looking through to its dimension.  Doesn't the game imply that it must have been physically present in the world during that time?  I mean, we do see the Earth's crust start cracking, and then Lavos burst through it and shells the planet with God knows what to destroy it.  If Lavos simply existed in his pocket dimension during this time, why would the game show him bursting from the ground, which would have required his physical presence to do so?

The Pocket Dimension theory is an attempt to explain several strange aspects of Lavos and its behaviour.

• Damage to Lavos' shell visible previous time periods.
• Lavos' emulation of Guardian's fighting techniques.
• The blue field surrounding Lavos' shell.
• The "time warp" during the final battle.[/list:u]
  It is possible that Guardian was constructed before 1999 AD, and lavos observed its function at that time.  However, Lavos couldn't have known that the time travellers fought Guardian in 2300 AD unless it could see the future or read the travellers' minds, which are both possible.
  
  Also, the "time warp" surrounding Lavos Core shows post-apocalyptic ruins which could not have been observed prior to 1999 AD.
  
  During the Day of Lavos, Lavos appears to be physically present as it erupts through the crust, and when the travellers approach it on the ground, with no blue field surrounding its shell.  However, when the travellers confront Lavos, the battle takes place in the blue field.
  
  In normal space, Lavos' shell may appear as a projection of Lavos' true self, much like the Dragon Gods in Chrono Trigger.  Lavos' shell may also exist partially in normal space, and Lavos' dimension.
  
  Lavos needed to move to the surface to reproduce.  It's spawn feed on the energy of the destroyed world until they are mature.  Lavos could have existed the pocket dimension completely or moved the opening of the dimension to the surface.

[doulifee]

unless it could see the future or read the travellers' minds, which are both possible.

Also, the "time warp" surrounding Lavos Core shows post-apocalyptic ruins which could not have been observed prior to 1999 AD.

that could by "psychologic measure. you know to insulate fear of your ennemies. Boss are though creatures, and hero spend time to fight them.
Last mimic the creature and the background to  influence the heroe"s mind and make them weaker.

[SilentMartyr]

Well if you think about it since Lavos is not part of any specific time it can go anywhere in a timeline. So it can see into 2300. Or it could have just felt the presence of the Gaurdian like every other boss the group encountered. Lavos never had direct contact with any of the boss they fight except for Magus. So it must obtain this mimicing ability from draining the power of the planet. And there is still power left in the planet after 1999, if there wasn't how would the spawn be able to grow?

[swift]

The spawns could kill the "Mother" Lavos and get the energy/food to grow and, after this, go to another world and repeat this cycle. The black widow does something like that, but I can't remember if it's after the sexual act or after its spawns born.