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Re: The name Lavos?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2007, 07:09:45 pm »
Thanks for the props.   :D

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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2007, 01:40:24 pm »
theoretically, zeal probably referanced Lavos with the knoweledge that he dwelled in the bowls of the earth, next to lava. and when Ayla was part of ct she learned magic which could always mean she helped the spread of magic. ayla was probably very much part of the zeal family, or at least cause the spread of magic.

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Re: The name Lavos?
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2007, 05:03:21 pm »
theoretically, zeal probably referanced Lavos with the knoweledge that he dwelled in the bowls of the earth, next to lava. and when Ayla was part of ct she learned magic which could always mean she helped the spread of magic. ayla was probably very much part of the zeal family, or at least cause the spread of magic.

Wow, you probably didn't play CT at all.

Ayla didn't learn magic at all. Nobody in her time had or could learn magic, as  Ayla was "born before magic".
Humans gained magic in roughly 3,000,000 BC when they first made contact with the Frozen Flame, that awakened those powers.

As for Zeal, they maybe knew the word, but fully didn't understand what it was for. Then when they detected Lavos in the Earth, then maybe they put two and two together and realized what the source of all the power was.

However, as for 600AD +, only the Mystics knew about Lavos in 600AD, and after that, it seems that nobody knows about Lavos at all, or even cares, until 1999AD when they give it a name, Lavos which seems weird (I'm referring to the scene in the Dead Sea when we look at the atmosphere report and they call it L.A.V.O.S or w/e)

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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2007, 05:07:54 pm »
no when i said she learned magic, i meant in the actual game, you know that part where they circled around the room 3 times and learned magic. she knew magic. there's no doubt, because in the game if she hadn't learned magic than she would have no powers other than hitting enemies with a club.

and i have played every game in the chrono series, even radical dreamers.

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Re: The name Lavos?
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2007, 02:21:34 am »
Ayla never learns magic. Spekkio is explicit in her inability to do so.

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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2007, 02:28:53 am »
Ayla never learns magic. Spekkio is explicit in her inability to do so.

Thank You.

I reframed from posting as I would only hurt his intelligence.

Nicely put.

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Re: The name Lavos?
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2007, 09:37:24 am »
theoretically, zeal probably referanced Lavos with the knoweledge that he dwelled in the bowls of the earth, next to lava. and when Ayla was part of ct she learned magic which could always mean she helped the spread of magic. ayla was probably very much part of the zeal family, or at least cause the spread of magic.

Here's a good suggestion... Play the game, read the facts then make a statement.   This will prevent you from embarassing yourself.

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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2007, 05:05:18 pm »
for the last time i've played the game.
even if she didn't posses the skills of magic she was still very powerful. plus she saw others use magic, she's not a moron she'd remember others using it.
Ayla never learns magic. Spekkio is explicit in her inability to do so.

Thank You.

I reframed from posting as I would only hurt his intelligence.

Nicely put.

plus where talking about the name lavos, not about ayla's magic abilities. anyway back to topic.

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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2007, 09:56:19 pm »
for the last time i've played the game.
even if she didn't posses the skills of magic she was still very powerful. plus she saw others use magic, she's not a moron she'd remember others using it.
Ayla never learns magic. Spekkio is explicit in her inability to do so.

Thank You.

I reframed from posting as I would only hurt his intelligence.

Nicely put.

plus where talking about the name lavos, not about ayla's magic abilities. anyway back to topic.

Then you shouldn't have brought it up in the first place, using it as an analogy as to how it may have been passed down, when canonically, it seems that Ayla and the Zeal family aren't direct relatives.

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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2007, 04:38:11 pm »
theoretically, zeal probably referanced Lavos with the knoweledge that he dwelled in the bowls of the earth, next to lava. and when Ayla was part of ct she learned magic which could always mean she helped the spread of magic. ayla was probably very much part of the zeal family, or at least cause the spread of magic.

Wow, you probably didn't play CT at all.

Ayla didn't learn magic at all. Nobody in her time had or could learn magic, as  Ayla was "born before magic".
Humans gained magic in roughly 3,000,000 BC when they first made contact with the Frozen Flame, that awakened those powers.

As for Zeal, they maybe knew the word, but fully didn't understand what it was for. Then when they detected Lavos in the Earth, then maybe they put two and two together and realized what the source of all the power was.

However, as for 600AD +, only the Mystics knew about Lavos in 600AD, and after that, it seems that nobody knows about Lavos at all, or even cares, until 1999AD when they give it a name, Lavos which seems weird (I'm referring to the scene in the Dead Sea when we look at the atmosphere report and they call it L.A.V.O.S or w/e)

i was only saying how it could have possibly been passed down.
they weren't direct, but history is passed down somehow.

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Re: The name Lavos?
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2007, 01:16:30 am »
I dony know, but chrono and Co. see the name lavos in the image of his day, and after, when you fight after magus, and fell into the portal to 6400000xxx ac, Gleen or the other say the word "lavos" maybe, ayla say this an call, lavos in reference, migthy la means fire (or big) but maybe means another one hundred of things, she and her tribe are just humans, semi-evolved, she learn new words when she know chrono, and his natural languaje has a tinny diferents words, maybe la, means all word that are closed to fire, like embers, lava, volcano, great meteorites, and more
The ones ho give the name to lavos are the zeal ones, and the people who live after the atack of 1999, find this information, and give the name of lavos to that big monster

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Re: The name Lavos?
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2007, 04:39:52 am »
A more realistic view is that the game would've been stupidly confusing if in every time period lavos was referred to with a different name(while logically sound) that having everyone who needed to talk about him all call him lavos made things so much simplier. ^^

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Re: The name Lavos?
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2007, 10:59:22 am »
Anybody take into account th Nu? they were around at that time. and they worked in the kingdom of zeal. Im sure that even if humanity had forgotton the name or that it was there the nu did not.. after all " All life begins and ends with nu"

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Re: The name Lavos?
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2007, 01:47:39 am »
Anybody take into account th Nu? they were around at that time. and they worked in the kingdom of zeal. Im sure that even if humanity had forgotton the name or that it was there the nu did not.. after all " All life begins and ends with nu"

Well, the nu could've told someone.  I dunno if anyone would've been paying attention- or believing them- in 1999, but you never know.

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Re: The name Lavos?
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2007, 03:48:30 pm »
(I was going to make a new topic, but since this is up)
The words in Lavos' name; do they have some kinda of real world origin to them? Like is there a something like "Fire-Small" or "Water-Big"?

And on the topic, within the game, it's most likely that Ayla told everyone. Or that the term for "big fire" was/is common in those early times; and eveyone that saw the crash thought the same thing. In both cases, the events became legendary since without it, humans wouldn't exist in the same manner as on Zeal.