The Dating and Relationships Thread

[Daniel Krispin]

You mean the Guns N' Roses concert with the SuicideGirls burlesque dancers? Sweet.

Um, what?

*packs bags immediately and goes to wherever that is*

It has long been a dream of mine to lay some pipe in a SuicideGirl.

Heh. Apparenly they saw them sitting in the stands, and some of my brother's co-workers at his guitar-shop got a picture with them.

Oh, and to...DBoruta, I asked my brother, and his response was as I thought. He doesn't like Pearl Jam because they're grunge. I didn't ask him any more, but I've heard his opinion on grunge before, and it's not good... I think he kind of sees it as the death of Rock and Roll. He's got some unkind words for Nirvana, as well.

[Burning Zeppelin]

Grunge wasn't just the death of rock n' roll (a genre which was dying anyway-- not even GnR could pull it back up). It was the death of britpop & Madchester, metal, glam rock, shoegazing, pop, and Yngiew Malmsteens career. You should tell your brother that truth be told, rock n' roll sucks.

[Daniel Krispin]

Grunge wasn't just the death of rock n' roll (a genre which was dying anyway-- not even GnR could pull it back up). It was the death of britpop & Madchester, metal, glam rock, shoegazing, pop, and Yngiew Malmsteens career. You should tell your brother that truth be told, rock n' roll sucks.

I couldn't do that, especially seeing as I don't think so. Well, that and he could definitely beat me up (if he wanted to) and I'm sure you, too, if you told him that to his face. You probably wouldn't, though. He'd just stare you down and you'd crawl away. He's a bit intimidating. He might be my younger brother, but he's a full 6'6, with long hair, and looks for all the world like the archetype of Rock and Roll. He probably knows more about music than you could dream of, and has the talent to boot.

The thing is, you're dead wrong. The end of Malmsteen's career? Then how come he's still making music, and still successful, to this very day? The only reason he had a setback then was because of his car accident. He lost the ability to use his arm. Ever wonder why he was so fat for a while? It was the coma he had been in. And for Rock dying... no. Rock never dies, and its continued popularity (hey, GnR still has full crowds, even with only Axl left) is proof of that. What changed was the attitude. The free, party and go-for-it attitude that drove Rock disappeared for more depressing and dim (yes, dim - shadows and grey) in the 90s, so naturally Rock had no fertile ground in that era. And how did pop die? It's still around! Really, I don't think you know what you're talking about. I barely know anything about this, but I seem to know a bit more than you anway.

Oh, by the way, I'm going to see Aerosmith tomorrow so, heh, no, Rock doesn't suck. I might prefer instrumental type of music most of the time, but it's definitely a thousandfold better than what I've ever heard from Grunge. It's got melody, art, and raw power. There's colour and substance there, and by nature Grunge isn't that, and can't be half the music or colour of art that Rock is. Not to mention that it's sheer folly to say of something as wide-ranging as Rock that it sucks. You might not like this band or that, but considering it encompasses things from Aerosmith to the Stones to Led Zeppelin to Van Halen to etc. etc. of such diversity as probably no other musical genre exists, a blanket statement like that is ridiculous.

[Burning Zeppelin]

Malmsteen was really popular before Nirvana came. Then he kinda just died down.
Oh, and remember that when Kurt Cobain killed himself, no one really cared about grunge anymore, and the whole alternative fad went on to emo, pop punk and indie.

6foot6!

By the way, I don't think rock sucks-- I love rock. A lot. I think rock n' roll sucks.

[Daniel Krispin]

Like I said, Malmsteen died down because he had an accident which sent him into a coma, and thereafter rendered the use of one arm useless. It made him fat, and took him years to regain command of the arm. That's why things seemed to die down from him. However, he's still around and kicking these days, what of that?

And yes, my brother is 6'6. I'm fortunate I'm an even 6'... he doesn't look THAT tall to me. To most others, he's a giant.

And the thing is, you can't say you love Rock, but you think Rock n' Roll sucks. Unless you've made something up, there is no distinction. Rock is a mere nickname for Rock n' Roll, which itself is a derogatory term for the music (it has sexual connotations, actually, and was a term before it became applied to music.) Rock and Rock n' Roll are the same things... it just gets a little bit tiresome to always say the whole thing of the latter.

[ZeaLitY]

There is a slight burden for the tall to excel. We have no anomymity. But this has ultimate led to a positive thing. I now relish moments of dressing well and being prominent, and try to make some merit of it.

[Daniel Krispin]

Well, I'm glad I'm not particularly tall (or, at least I don't think 6' is really that tall), so I don't have to worry about that. Then again... actually, I'd prefer a little less anonymity - I'm just overlooked, I think. Maybe I'd be a bit more noticed if I was my brother's height.

[Radical_Dreamer]

Six foot is over average, but I think it's still first standard deviation. I'm 5'11" and get noticed plenty. Of course, the fact that my hair is 2'4" may help.

[nightmare975]

Six foot is over average, but I think it's still first standard deviation. I'm 5'11" and get noticed plenty. Of course, the fact that my hair is 2'4" may help.

Same here. Though I think my hair is around 3'

[Burning Zeppelin]

I don't like rock n' roll, as in Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley, and most GnR/ACDC songs. I like rock that evolved, and isn't extremely blues influenced.

[Hadriel]

You guys are probably going to think I'm a terrible person, but here goes.

So there's this high school girl, right.  Before you get uppity, I haven't done anything with her that would be breaking the rules of my own thread; she lives in another state.  But the thing is, I know her.  Like, well.  For three years I've been her dear friend.  And for those same three years I've wanted to spirit her away like a knight in armor to somewhere romantic and never come back.  The terrible part is that I was reacting to her when I initially got together with Michelle.  I saw little pieces of her in Michelle, and I latched onto those.  The only reason my conscience hasn't caused my heart to fail me is that I eventually got to love Michelle for what she was, but now she's gone, and I'm left once again to try and dote on someone so removed from me that no sane person would consider it.  But dear God, she's the sweetest, most intelligent, most exquisite being the universe has ever seen.  She is perfection.  I'm the most judgmental bastard I know, and I can't find a single flaw in her character.  I've looked.  I've looked, because it isn't healthy for either of us for me to be so fixated on her.  But I am.  And she knows it.

I'm fairly convinced that there's at least a spark on her end, but our worlds are so far removed from one another that even if it was somehow fanned to full flame, there's a high probability that nothing could come of it.  I just hope I never get to the stage where I'm willing to do anything to be with her, because that would make me the kind of man that she'd hate.  Trouble is, I'm almost there.  I'm almost to the point where I would gladly and willingly sell out humanity to invading aliens just to be with her for ten minutes, or shove my sword through my brain to get her to laugh.

I feel sick.  Why does Spike have to be right about everything?

You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love 'til it kills you both. You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other 'til it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends. Real love isn't brains, children. It's blood. It's blood screaming inside you to work its will. I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.

[ZeaLitY]

If he's making a pitch to biology, fuck him. Friendship is the basic building block.

[Exodus]

You people are getting amazingly off-topic.

[Daniel Krispin]

You guys are probably going to think I'm a terrible person, but here goes.

So there's this high school girl, right.  Before you get uppity, I haven't done anything with her that would be breaking the rules of my own thread; she lives in another state.  But the thing is, I know her.  Like, well.  ...

I'll quote myself:

But likewise I ask you to remember prudence, not allowing unwarlike Aphrodite to craze your mind in seeking your woman. Too often I have heard my fellows profess foolish love, such as would ruin cities... for what? A singular love? Do not attempt madness, if it is offered you.

Although,

Who amongst men, when first the baleful arrows of passion have taken hold of his heart, can dismiss it? Sooner he drinks poison and scorns its mortal nature! So, for all his strength and hardihood, he was thralled like a one driven under a sigalder’s spell, whose mind is broken to ever return to the commands of he who holds dominion over his will, never tarrying long in other fields. Here he will think upon some other thing, or there hold converse with a companion. But ever and again a trifle will recall to his mind that one enchanter, and then all other thoughts grow deaf and blind, till torn in madness there is no reprieve, and he wails against that which fortune allotted him, and that he may not be free master over his own mind.

[Hadriel]

If he's making a pitch to biology, fuck him. Friendship is the basic building block.

I barely knew Michelle when I got together with her.  I just volunteered to drive her to her job because I found her attractive.  For some reason she thought I was cute, and before either one of us knew what the fuck was happening, we were making out.  Like I said, the original reason I was attracted to her was because of certain things she did that imitated this other girl, as well as her Asian-ness.  Friendship may be a building block of a good relationship, but it doesn't get you in the door, and depending on the relationship, it might not even sustain it.

Spike isn't talking about biology, because he's smart enough to know that vampire poets have no place talking about biology.  He's talking about what love can do to a relationship.  Supposing she came here to visit (she does have other friends who live in redneck country), I couldn't ever maintain an honest conversation with her.  The entire visit would be spent trying to engineer a situation in which the two of us are alone, engendering whatever inevitable set of results follows, whether it's a kick in the balls or an enthusiastic makeout session.

But likewise I ask you to remember prudence, not allowing unwarlike Aphrodite to craze your mind in seeking your woman. Too often I have heard my fellows profess foolish love, such as would ruin cities... for what? A singular love? Do not attempt madness, if it is offered you.

Madness sounds like a lot of fun right about now.  And even if it didn't, I think I can feel it starting to take over my thought processes.