Janus = Guile ?

[XcyrusX]

Just to say I know guile was intended to be magus but square decided to cut that out right?
Anyway I found this at a Chrono Cross Fan Web Site and its kinda intresting....I dont take credit for it anyway. ^^

P.S. Almost finished CC for the first time YaY for meh!

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**Janus = Guile**
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"Janus" here means the Janus that Crono and friends meet in Zeal in 12,000 BC,
grown up to be an adult *without* having been drawn into the Dark Ages and raised
under the influence of Ozzie. In other words, if Guile is indeed Janus, it could
be said that Guile and Magus are two alternate forms of Janus as an adult.

The case for:
-It is possible, but unconfirmed as yet, that Janus is left alive and well in
12,000 BC after Crono sacrifices himself.
-Lucca implies that Janus may be standing next to Kid in her letter.
-The similarities which Guile shares with Magus may imply that he is
actually Janus as an adult (just like Magus)
-Guile is a powerful magic user, just like Janus.
-In the ending of CC, there is a picture of Schala sitting and a man
standing next to her. The man's head is not visible, but the clothes do
resemble Guile's
-Guile doesn't seem to recognize people and things Magus should (Ozzie,
Flea and Slash, the Epoch), and he wouldn't, would he?

The case against:
-Janus may not have escaped being transported to ~580 AD by Lavos
-Guile uses Black Magic, which seems odd for Janus.
-How Janus could make it from 12,000 BC to 1020 AD is unknown

The Tuff One has an idea:

"I would think that if Schala was able to clone herself and send a clone
through time, she could also easily transport Janus or Magus through time or
clone Janus and send Janus's clone to 1020 A.D"

[nightmare975]

Time Bastard sends Janus to 580AD.

Sorry, but whoever wrote that is wrong.

[ZeaLitY]

We have to obey everything Masato Kato says (within...limits; he's drunk in that Ultimania interview), so Guile not being Magus is case closed. What even seals it further is that they thought about including Janus, but decided to go with an older version of Magus before ending up with Guile. So Janus was accounted for and he's not Guile.

If Janus were in Chrono Cross, Time Bastard would effectively be ruined...

[XcyrusX]

All My Dreams Have been shattered......

haha jk i thought as much ima find out what that time rule is... He was drunk hahaha.

Well thx for Clearing that up!  ^^

[Chrono'99]

-It is possible, but unconfirmed as yet, that Janus is left alive and well in

In the timeline in which Crono interfers, the Last Village Elder confirms to the party that Janus fell into a black portal and that so did Melchior.

-In the ending of CC, there is a picture of Schala sitting and a man
standing next to her. The man's head is not visible, but the clothes do
resemble Guile's

Schala and the man are wearing wedding dresses on that photograph, and the man is confirmed to be Serge in the artbook Missing Piece.

[Magus22]

In the timeline in which Crono interfers, the Last Village Elder confirms to the party that Janus fell into a black portal and that so did Melchior.

I still find this interesting. Another Janus is still out there somewhere, as well as another Melchior. However, due to the CC being used, I guess it is safe to say everything is back to normal...

But then again, another loop was created when history repeated itself, Janus from the past was throw ahead yet again. Is it safe to say the CC restored the universes and dimensions?

[XcyrusX]

I finally finished Chrono Cross! wow I used the chrono cross with the other elements the first time i tried. lol
That was the easiest boss ever haha. Well now i am offically bored.....  =(

[ZeaLitY]

In the timeline in which Crono interfers, the Last Village Elder confirms to the party that Janus fell into a black portal and that so did Melchior.

I still find this interesting. Another Janus is still out there somewhere, as well as another Melchior. However, due to the CC being used, I guess it is safe to say everything is back to normal...

But then again, another loop was created when history repeated itself, Janus from the past was throw ahead yet again. Is it safe to say the CC restored the universes and dimensions?

This is why we have Time Bastard. Conservation of Matter / Energy dictate that you can't get something for nothing. A simple Gate cannot add to the sum total of matter in the universe by spitting out two versions of someone. In addition, each time someone changed history, the timeline would be rewritten from that point forward (even if by the propagation of that person's light cone). This would result in an entire army of new people from that Gate in this scenario. Time Bastard dictates that out with the old in with the new (and out with the new as well if there's a newer version who has traveled).