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the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« on: January 28, 2007, 10:54:44 pm »
playing thru CT im at the part where i first see schala, and she uses her pendant to open the door to the ocean palace or something, but marle also has the pendant. So there are 2 pendants. Problem solved? or am i wrong

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Re: the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2007, 11:23:02 pm »
Where does Kid come into play?

Anyway, my thought is that it was handed down from one sort to another until it got into Marles Family. By then, like the Sun Stone, it had lost its magical properties.

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Re: the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2007, 12:52:06 am »
Kid gets schala's pendant in CC, but it was also handed down to marle, so there must be 2 pendants.

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Re: the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2007, 07:18:51 am »
Kid gets schala's pendant in CC, but it was also handed down to marle, so there must be 2 pendants.
kids pendant is the one schala had on her when she got sucked into the DBT. i think we came up with a explentation for why that didnt cause a time paradox, that too will be in the wiki.

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Re: the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2007, 08:36:41 am »
Said it before in another thread, but these are reasons why plot holes don't exsist.  Someone can always come up with some type of explanation to explain something.  I personally feel different.

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Re: the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2007, 01:21:40 am »
well obviously there were 2 pendants, seeing as how marle had one at the same time as schala, so there isnt really a plot hole

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Re: the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2007, 03:28:24 am »
well obviously there were 2 pendants, seeing as how marle had one at the same time as schala, so there isnt really a plot hole
there is only one pendant. the pendants are from different times in its existence in the same time because of the time traveling.

the plot hole had to do with changing slightly what happened to schala which made her pendant end up with kid not eventually making its way to marle or somethine like that

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Re: the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2007, 03:23:24 pm »
well obviously there were 2 pendants, seeing as how marle had one at the same time as schala, so there isnt really a plot hole
there is only one pendant. the pendants are from different times in its existence in the same time because of the time traveling.

the plot hole had to do with changing slightly what happened to schala which made her pendant end up with kid not eventually making its way to marle or somethine like that

In a sense, there are 2 pendants; #1 In the FMV where Lucca sees the baby with Schala's pendant #2 Marle still has her pendant, even though we don't see her wearing it at the wedding scene

Kid has the pendant Schala sent down with her, that is fact. However, on the Zenan mainland, Marle still has her pendant, if she did not die when Porre attacked Guardia. My question... Schala's pendant originally made its way to Marle in the original timeline, before the telepod was used. What happended to Schala? In the new timeline created by Crono and co. Schala sends Crono's party out of the Ocean Palace and vanishes along with her pendant that would soon be sent along with the clone of herself, the clone being created somehow with the struggle of Lavos.

This just hit me though... what if it was the other Schala from the original timeline before Crono ever interfered? Kid = Schala, yes, but hear me out. What if both Schala's combined there powers to send one other outside of Lavos's restraint? It was a success, but it left one of the Schala's DNA being re-written, their genes altered, and having been reverted back to a mere baby. Is anyone following me here or did I loose some people?

I am saying that the original Schala was either the one who reverted into the baby, becoming Kid, or the one you freed from the TD. When the CC was used, both Schala's may have become one, yet retaining the knowledge of the other as well. This can be confirmed by Kid's quote at the very end of CC before the credits roll.

Ideas?

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Re: the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2007, 07:33:05 pm »
kid is a clone based on the english script, the jap one probably says the same.

the original schala would have to have get sent somewhere where the pendant could end up in marles family.

the ending quote can be kind ambigueos it could be written by a merged/nonmerged kid&schala if you think about the thinking behind signing in such a way, plus some of the clips in the good ending make it kinda confusing.

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Re: the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2007, 04:27:44 pm »
Agreed.

But there are still 2 of Schala's pendants present. If Marle is not dead, she still possess hers, and Kid obviously has the one in which Schala sent with her.

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Re: the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2007, 04:00:16 pm »
Marle's pendant may have come from a parallel dimension.

This way, Marle's is a different pendant from kid's one, which was originally Schala's one. Two pendants, two dimensions. That's a theory.

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Re: the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2007, 12:52:54 am »
Marle's pendant may have come from a parallel dimension.

This way, Marle's is a different pendant from kid's one, which was originally Schala's one. Two pendants, two dimensions. That's a theory.
almost correct the pendants looking different was just a design change, or its ment to look like that when not in the gold holding thing.
marles pendant came from the original timelines schala (passed down,found, or however the royal family got it) before crono and co started changing it, kids pendant is the one schala had in the changed timeline where crono and co's presence changed what happened to schala so she kept her pendant in that timeline which then got sent to kid.

parrallel dimensions are different from timelines in a few ways.

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Re: the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2007, 02:50:19 am »
Marle's pendant may have come from a parallel dimension.

This way, Marle's is a different pendant from kid's one, which was originally Schala's one. Two pendants, two dimensions. That's a theory.
almost correct the pendants looking different was just a design change, or its ment to look like that when not in the gold holding thing.
marles pendant came from the original timelines schala (passed down,found, or however the royal family got it) before crono and co started changing it, kids pendant is the one schala had in the changed timeline where crono and co's presence changed what happened to schala so she kept her pendant in that timeline which then got sent to kid.

parrallel dimensions are different from timelines in a few ways.
If there is only one pendent, How did all those other people get through the doors? :)
I'm guessing that Alot of the Enlightened ones  had pendents of some sort that could open their boxes and doors. I'm guessing that Marle's pendent is just one of the remaining stones that wasn't kept in the treasury, but passed down,and that Schala sent hers to kid.

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Re: the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2007, 03:58:17 am »
Aren't they the same pendant, just at different points of its existence?
According to TTI, Marle will appear in 600 A.D. with her pendant, even though it was never passed down in her family.

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Re: the reason why both marle/kid get the pendant
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2007, 06:11:16 am »
If there is only one pendent, How did all those other people get through the doors? :)
I'm guessing that Alot of the Enlightened ones  had pendents of some sort that could open their boxes and doors. I'm guessing that Marle's pendent is just one of the remaining stones that wasn't kept in the treasury, but passed down,and that Schala sent hers to kid.
There's only one of those door, the one leading to Zeal's throneroom. And the pendant was made from the royal family's Red Rock.