Gundam Seed

[Rydis]

wing zero would be the strongest. Followed by all the gundams in wing, and the rest follow behind.

[Sentenal]

You think the other gundams in Wing would be stronger than something like the Strike Freedom?  Heavyarms for example, would get it's ass handed to it by any SEED gundam, since their Phase Shift armor blocks conventional, non-beam weaponry.  And the Deathsythe Hell seems to have most of it's potiental in defense, with limited ranged attacks at all.

The Strike Freedom has tons big cannons on it, and can send out those laser-bit things to attack from all directions, not to mention its incredibly fast.

Nu Gundam had similar laser-flying around thingers, and like...  Amuro pushed an asteriod away from a collision course with the Earth practically alone.

But Wing Zero is definitely the strongest.  Not only because it's guns can destroy an entire colony in one blast (that could be dodged), but because the Zero System or whatever reads your oppenent's mind or something.  Epyon would probably be in this tier as well, since its supposed to do something similar.

Maybe Kira or Athrun's SEED mode, or Amuro's Newtype ability, would compensate for that, I dunno.

[Rydis]

You think the other gundams in Wing would be stronger than something like the Strike Freedom?  Heavyarms for example, would get it's ass handed to it by any SEED gundam, since their Phase Shift armor blocks conventional, non-beam weaponry.  And the Deathsythe Hell seems to have most of it's potiental in defense, with limited ranged attacks at all.

The Strike Freedom has tons big cannons on it, and can send out those laser-bit things to attack from all directions, not to mention its incredibly fast.

Nu Gundam had similar laser-flying around thingers, and like...  Amuro pushed an asteriod away from a collision course with the Earth practically alone.

But Wing Zero is definitely the strongest.  Not only because it's guns can destroy an entire colony in one blast (that could be dodged), but because the Zero System or whatever reads your oppenent's mind or something.  Epyon would probably be in this tier as well, since its supposed to do something similar.

Maybe Kira or Athrun's SEED mode, or Amuro's Newtype ability, would compensate for that, I dunno.

Sorry, I thought we were talking about hero type gundams only. I was talking about the 4 gundams from Wing, not the convential ones.  I do however, think strike freedom can give zero a run for his money because kira somehow posses newtype abilities. However, in the end, zero is godlike so.

[Sentenal]

There were 5 original gundams in Wing, then they got Zero and Epyon, and Deathsythe Hell and Altron.  Not even counting the 3 versions of Tallgeese.

So, which ones of those were you considering "convential", or did I miss your point somehow?

[Feez]

I think the rank would be something like...

Wing Zero
Epyon
Strike Freedom

 

[Rydis]

There were 5 original gundams in Wing, then they got Zero and Epyon, and Deathsythe Hell and Altron.  Not even counting the 3 versions of Tallgeese.

So, which ones of those were you considering "convential", or did I miss your point somehow?

anything standard really to the military. Dinns, Buckoo's, basically anything that a standard person would pilot.

[Magus068]

Nu gundam specs...

Model number: RX-93
Code name: Nu Gundam
Unit type: Newtype use ultrahigh efficiency mobile suit
Manufacturer: Anaheim Electronics
Operator: Londo Bell
First deployment: March UC 0093
Accommodation: pilot only, in ejectable panoramic monitor/linear seat cockpit in torso
Dimensions: overall height 23.0 meters; head height 22.0 meters
Weight: empty 27.9 metric tons; max gross 63.0 metric tons
Construction: gundarium alloy on movable frame
Powerplant: Minovsky type ultracompact fusion reactor, output rated at 2980 kW
Propulsion: rocket thrusters: 4 x 18300 kg, 2 x 12300 kg; vernier thrusters/apogee motors: 26
Performance: maximum thruster acceleration 1.55 G
Equipment and design features: sensors, range 21300 meters; dummy launchers in hands; birdlime launchers in hands; psycoframe cockpit frame
Fixed armaments: 2 x vulcan gun, fire-linked, mounted in head; large beam saber, power rated at 0.85 MW, stored in recharge rack on backpack, hand-carried in use; beam saber, stored in recharge rack in left forearm, hand-carried in use
Optional fixed armaments: shield, mounted on left forearm, mounts beam cannon (power rated at 7.8 MW) and 4 x small missile
Optional hand armaments: beam rifle, power rated at 3.8 MW, powered by rechargeable energy cap, with attached grenade launcher, 1 round; hyper bazooka, clip-fed, 4 rounds per clip plus 1 round in chamber, can be stored on backpack storage rack
Remote weapons: 6 x fin funnel, stored on backpack storage rack

Wing Zero Custom Gundam specs..

Model number: XXXG-00W0
Code name: Wing Gundam Zero
Unit type: transformable mobile suit
Manufacturer: Quatre Raberba Winner (based on a design by Doctor J, Professor G, Instructor H, Doktor S and Master O)
Operator: Gundam pilots
First deployment: AC 195
Accommodation: pilot only, in standard cockpit in torso
Dimensions: head height 16.7 meters
Weight: empty 8.0 metric tons; max gross weight unknown
Construction: gundanium alloy
Powerplant: ultracompact fusion reactor, output rated at 3732 kW
Propulsion: rocket thrusters: 88150 kg total
Equipment and design features: sensors, range unknown; Zero System combat computer/pilot interface in cockpit; self-destruct system
Fixed armaments: 2 x machine cannon, fire-linked, mounted in torso; 2 x beam saber, stored in recharge racks in wing binders, hand-carried in use
Optional hand armaments: twin buster rifle, can be separated into two separate single-barrel buster rifles


Strike Freedom Specs...

Model number: ZGMF-X20A
Code name: Strike Freedom Gundam
Unit type: prototype assault mobile suit
Manufacturer: Three Ships Alliance (based on a design by ZAFT)
Operator(s): Three Ships Alliance; Orb Union
First deployment: C.E. 74
Accommodation: pilot only, in standard cockpit in torso
Dimensions: overall height 18.88 meters
Weight: max gross weight 80.09 metric tons
Construction: unknown
Powerplant: ultracompact hyper deuterion nuclear reactor, power output rating unknown
Equipment and design features: sensors, range unknown; Variable Phase Shift (VPS) armor; Neutron Jammer Canceler
Fixed armaments: 2 x MMI-GAU27D 31mm CIWS, fire-linked, mounted in head; MGX-2235 "Callidus" multi-phase beam cannon, mounted in torso; 2 x MA-M02G "Super Lacerta" beam saber, stored on hips, hand-carried in use; 2 x MMI-M15E "Xiphias 3" rail cannon, folded underneath hips, spread out in use; 2 x MX2200 beam shield generator, mounted on forearms; 2 x MA-M21KF high-energy beam rifle, stored on hips, hand-carried in use, can be combined
Optional fixed armaments (docked with METEOR): 2 x 120cm high-energy beam cannon, 2 x 93.7cm high-energy beam cannon, 2 x MA-X200 beam sword , 77 x 60cm "Erinaceus" anti-ship missile launchers (22 per pod, 12 per arm unit, 9 on tail fin)
Optional hand armaments: none
Remote weapons: EQFU-3X Super DRAGOON (Disconnected Rapid Armament Group Overlook Operation Network) mobile weapon wings (mounts 8 x MA-80V beam assault cannon)

Basically they're all even in terms of performance & armaments... It all breaks down to who's the better pilot.

[Sentenal]

In terms of Armaments, I think it goes Wing Zero, Freedom, Nu.

Wing Zero's twin buster rifle is capable of destroying an entire space colony in one blast.

Strike Freedom has several beam cannons all over the suit.  I think the Strike Freedom has 5 on the body, then all the Dragoons....

Nu has a beam rifle, and I guess they call them the fin funnels.

If the Wing Zero didn't have that Buster Rifle, Freedom would have the most in terms of fire power.

[Feez]

The Wing Zero is just cheap, plain and simple. It was designed to be ultimate.

[Magus068]

Nu's beam rifle is one of the highest power output of all UC & second only to F91's VSBR(variable shot beam rifle) & its fin funnel can block any shell & beam type weapons including Nahel Argama's hi-mega particle cannon.

But in terms of detructive power I'll vote Turn A Gundam... It's moonlight butterfly can turn any machines in to dust( because of this gundam, the entire human race reverts back to the dark ages.)

[Sentenal]

Nu's fin funnel can block beams?  How exactly does it do that?  I havn't seen Char's Counter Attack that much, but I don't remmeber it ever doing anything like that.

And which series is the Turn A Gundam from?

[Rydis]

Nu's fin funnel can block beams?  How exactly does it do that?  I havn't seen Char's Counter Attack that much, but I don't remmeber it ever doing anything like that.

And which series is the Turn A Gundam from?

Believe the series is named, Turn A Gundam (just something I think I thought I saw, but the Turn A, means a upside down A, dont kill me if I have this wrong).

[Feez]

I've never seen Turn A Gundam or whatever, but maybe I should. Is it any good?

[Magus068]

Nu's fin funnel can block beams?  How exactly does it do that?  I havn't seen Char's Counter Attack that much, but I don't remmeber it ever doing anything like that.

And which series is the Turn A Gundam from?

Nu's fin funnel makes a tetrahedron formation then it creates a beam barrier.

Turn A Gundam(CC or Correct Century) is suppose to be the last gundam series uniting the 5 gundam universes(UC or Universal Century, AW or After Wars(Gundam X), FC or Future Century(G Gundam) & lastly AC or After Colony(Gundam Wing).  This gundam series was written & directed by Yoshiyuki Tomino the granddaddy of all gundam series.

Here's the gist of the story....

http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=916

This series combines the melodrama anime of the 80's with a touch of mecha anime.  To me its a fairly good anime but this is just my opinion.

[Sentenal]

Nu's fin funnel can block beams?  How exactly does it do that?  I havn't seen Char's Counter Attack that much, but I don't remmeber it ever doing anything like that.

And which series is the Turn A Gundam from?

Nu's fin funnel makes a tetrahedron formation then it creates a beam barrier.

Turn A Gundam(CC or Correct Century) is suppose to be the last gundam series uniting the 5 gundam universes(UC or Universal Century, AW or After Wars(Gundam X), FC or Future Century(G Gundam) & lastly AC or After Colony(Gundam Wing).  This gundam series was written & directed by Yoshiyuki Tomino the granddaddy of all gundam series.

Here's the gist of the story....

http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=916

This series combines the melodrama anime of the 80's with a touch of mecha anime.  To me its a fairly good anime but this is just my opinion.

Does the Nu Gundam do that in Char's Counter Attack?  I don't remmeber it ever doing that.

But in that regards, the Akatsuki can do something similar to that.  If Mwu was up to the task, I think that Gundam would be able to beat the Wing Zero, since I don't think it's buster rifle would work on it.  But for some retarded reason, beam swords to, while beam weapons don't, so he might get beaten in close combat, due to the Zero System.