Kino Confusion

[Kyronea]

It may very well have. Remember, the Gate at Leene Square didn't activate until the energy used in the Telepod ran through Marle's pendant. It could have lurked there for years, unseen. We don't start actually seeing Gates in the game itself until after we have the Gate Key. Note how the Gate Crono exits from in Truce Canyon disappears upon his arrival. I presume the reason we don't see the Gates at that point and later we do is thanks to the Gate Key, which probably excites the Gates into appearing for easy location and thus entry.

[Mystic Frog King]

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But are we to assume that every single Guardian Royal inadvertantly created a gate when they came into existence? There are many others who are important to history, also.

[Kyronea]

I wouldn't go that far. Only royals in the imporant eras would "create" Gates, and even then not all of the Gates had to do with Guardian royals. For one thing, I doubt either Gate in 2300 A.D. had to do with Doan.

Of course, there's always the possibility that there were other Gates not discovered by Crono and the gang, but I doubt it.

[Mystic Frog King]

So, you're saying that this 'Finding/birth of important people starts gates' thing applies only to those cases where it suits you? Interesting.

[Kyronea]

Uh...no. Doan doesn't seem likely to have been responsible for either the Bangor or Proto Dome Gates because he apparently lived in Arris Dome his whole life, as had probably all of his ancestors after the Day of Lavos. (Sure, he apparently raced Johnny, but he probably never went into Proto Dome, as I would think if he had, Robo would have been discovered and possibly destroyed out of fear. )

Similarly, I don't think a Guardian Royal had anything to do with the Gate that appeared at the Lair Ruins in 65,000,000 B.C., though one might have been responsible for the Guardia Forest Gate(and thus subsequently the Bangor Dome Gate.)

I'm merely pointing out the possibility, not saying either way. I'll leave it to the more Chronoeducated peeps like Zeality to expand upon this possibility and whether it's likely or not.

[Mystic Frog King]

That is correct. However, by your logic (or rather, AuraTwilight's), gates are made when people important to history are born/found/whatever. By that logic the entire Guardia Royal line is important, as the fact that Guardia's royal family was fathered by Kino is the only fact that gives Kino significance in history.

And there are plenty of other people important to history. There'd just be too many gates. Also, weren't the gates created by the Entity to help the heroes defeat Lavos? If your theory is true, then it was pure luck that the adventure happened like it did, and in the same time periods.

[AuraTwilight]

I didn't say history, I said the Life of the Planet. Though I guess they're close enough. Kino's probably the only person in the line significant to merit a Gate since he pretty much fathered almost all of humanity, not just the Guardia line.

Furthermore, the Entity did put down Gates to stop Lavos, but the group theorized it did so by reliving important moments of it's life, such as the birth of the dude who would father the majority of the human race.

[Mystic Frog King]

I didn't say history, I said the Life of the Planet. Though I guess they're close enough. Kino's probably the only person in the line significant to merit a Gate since he pretty much fathered almost all of humanity, not just the Guardia line.

Furthermore, the Entity did put down Gates to stop Lavos, but the group theorized it did so by reliving important moments of it's life, such as the birth of the dude who would father the majority of the human race.

I suppose, although in that case Kino's father fathered all humanity. Not to mention the other human males in that period.

[Kyronea]

Yes, I doubt Kino is the original human, as that's silly, as anyone who takes a look at how evolution works would know. Kino merely fathers an especially important line of humans. Frankly I wish we knew more about the Guardia line through the ages...there's no telling just how important they really are.

[Mystic Frog King]

So you've forgotten the 'gate comes with important people' thing, then?

[Kyronea]

Huh? No, Kino is still extremely important in the history of human civilization. He's just not the father of humanity per se.

That said, the Gate may more likely have been formed because that era was when Lavos fell. In all honesty I don't think Kino had much to do with the Gate's creation, though he may still have come through it.

[Chrono'99]

So you've forgotten the 'gate comes with important people' thing, then?

Gates don't come with important people, they come with important events of the planet's life/history.

[Mystic Frog King]

So you've forgotten the 'gate comes with important people' thing, then?

Gates don't come with important people, they come with important events of the planet's life/history.

But according to AT and Kyronea, then Kino would have caused a gate, and so would many others. If this is true, then it's because Lavos fell during this age.

[Kyronea]

I only suggested it as a possibility to be considered, nothing more. Kino is not the reason for the Gate, though it still seems vaguely possible that he might have come out of the Gate. Given that Leah also seems to be traveling through Gates--if we can take her comment about naming her daughter Ayla at face value--it would not be too surprising.

[Mystic Frog King]

I only suggested it as a possibility to be considered, nothing more. Kino is not the reason for the Gate, though it still seems vaguely possible that he might have come out of the Gate. Given that Leah also seems to be traveling through Gates--if we can take her comment about naming her daughter Ayla at face value--it would not be too surprising.

But I proved it wrong =/ Seeing as if Kino is important then all the other people in the village are too. And I thought the planet didn't care about humans?