Author Topic: Let's start a Folding@Home team and help science understand proteins/find cures.  (Read 2948 times)

Kyronea

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If someone would just explain to me what exactly would happen if I join, or what I would be required to do if I joined I may change my mind about the whole thing. I just want some reassurance I guess.
Basically all you have to do is download the application and start running it. It should be pretty self-explanatory how it all works. Just leave it running whenever you're connected to the internet and make sure any firewall active allows it through and you're fine and dandy.

Incidentely--though this may just be my computer being stupid--it seems to not like you running ZSNES whenever you have this program running. ZSNES will run but everytime I try viewing the ZSNES window it pops me back to the desktop. (And it's still running...it's like it auto alt-tabbed out or something.)
« Last Edit: March 26, 2007, 02:43:36 pm by Kyronea »

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I know that when I updated my PS3 it asked me to do the same thing...My PS3 isn't on enough to do it that way though.

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Its at 400/5000 now.

7:00, and now 450/5000

EDIT AGAIN: So, when are you going to make the team?
« Last Edit: March 28, 2007, 03:19:10 pm by nightmare975 »

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Friday evening, since I won't really have any free time until then.

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Still haven't got round to downloading the program. Is my 256Mb of ram adequate?

Kyronea

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It doesn't use all that much memory, as it really focuses more on CPU power, though oddly it does not take dual-core CPUs into account--mine is supposed to use 95% of CPU power but it only utilizes at most 47.5% of my CPU, as if it only detects one core...anyway, it's quite adjustable, so no worries.

It's not just ZSNES that refused to work with it...it's anything that fullscreens--usually games. This is somewhat annoying, because I hate having to shut it off everytime I want to play a game on this computer...but, that's just how it is.

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Well, I don't play PC games (PC is crap) so that shouldn't be a problem.

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I've never really been one to play online games, but there are some good mmorpg's (massivly multi player online role playing game) out there like silk road that I wanna try :)

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Had to uninstall it. Someone tried to hack into my computer.

Besides, it slowed my computer to a crawl.

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It wasn't the Folding@Home software that did it, and you needed to reconfigure it so it doesn't use up 100% of your CPU. For whatever reason it's set to do that automatically, which I frown at Standford for doing so. It's not that hard to reconfigure: just right click on the start bar tray icon, click configure, click the advanced tab, and set the CPU usage bar to whatever level you wish--each tick corresponds to ten percent higher than the previous tick.

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Had to uninstall it. Someone tried to hack into my computer.

Besides, it slowed my computer to a crawl.

Your paranoia has me really curious.

Someone tried to hack your computer? How do you know? And what makes you think Folding@home is related and/or makes you more vulnerable?


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Had to uninstall it. Someone tried to hack into my computer.

Besides, it slowed my computer to a crawl.

Your paranoia has me really curious.

Someone tried to hack your computer? How do you know? And what makes you think Folding@home is related and/or makes you more vulnerable?



My computer had been at an all time low on speed since I downloaded it. That and my dad made me remove it.(It's a family computer.)

My firewall system would shut down randomly. Since I unintalled it, it stopped shuting down. Plus, my computer warned me that someone hacked in and tried to change all settings on the computer.(Luckly, my computer restored everything, so no data loss.)

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It ran slowly because it's set automatically to use 100% of the CPU!

What kind of firewall are you using, anyway? Look, I have the security system of a private home style Fort Knox and none of my detection programs has ever indicated Folding@Home is anything to fear, and besides, it's from Standford freaking University, a primere university in the country!

No, it sounds more like coincidence...because of the increased CPU usage your firewall didn't function well--or it's just not a good firewall--and some program took advantage of that. Setting Folding@Home to use much less of the CPU would work splendidly, at least in terms of the slowdown. It wasn't really so much the fault of the program itself as it was the extensive usage of the CPU. I'd probably see something similiar if it was utilizing both of my CPU cores instead of just one.

By the way, what browser do you use? Do you run regular antivirus and spyware checks? What software do you use for each? I ask all of these questions because I KNOW it's not Folding@Home causing the problems you're facing.

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Had to uninstall it. Someone tried to hack into my computer.

Besides, it slowed my computer to a crawl.

Your paranoia has me really curious.

Someone tried to hack your computer? How do you know? And what makes you think Folding@home is related and/or makes you more vulnerable?



My computer had been at an all time low on speed since I downloaded it. That and my dad made me remove it.(It's a family computer.)

My firewall system would shut down randomly. Since I unintalled it, it stopped shuting down. Plus, my computer warned me that someone hacked in and tried to change all settings on the computer.(Luckly, my computer restored everything, so no data loss.)

Ah, then it wasn't really your computer to begin with, in which case I'd suggest not installing anything unnecessary on it (mostly out of politeness). And really, you should only run something like Folding@Home when my computer is idle, not when people are using it. The idea is to make use of all that wasted time where your computer isn't doing anything useful.

As for the hacking attempt, it mostly sounds like a mixture of coincidence and paranoia with a few automated hacking tools scanning your computer for vulnerabilities and maybe taking advantage of your firewall being down. If Folding@Home really caused your firewall to malfunction, then I'd have to wonder about the quality of your firewall software, since if it were well-written then other programs shouldn't be crashing it.

In fact, you should be trying to reproduce the problem instead of just attributing it to one program and carelessly living in blissful ignorance of what could be a larger problem (i.e. your firewall is easy to crash and your computer is easy to hack without a firewall because it has outstanding vulnerabilities).

Also, if your firewall is application-based, I suggest switching to a rules based firewall -- preferably something fairly stable and good log analysis tools -- and learning how to write some strict rulesets with sane exceptions tailored to your family's usage of the Internet. You might consider installing and configuring Privoxy too, so you can filter out malicious website content, especially if you use a generic Windows/IE setup to browse the web.

Honestly though, the only way to have any sort of real computer security is to understand computer software and networking, but I doubt most people want to invest that much time into learning computer science theory, common network services with their implementations and related vulnerabilities, and a few programming languages when all they want is to use a computer... But if you don't, then your only option is to be extremely paranoid, and even then you'll never really be safe no matter how paranoid you are.


Here's what your situation is like: You have an electronic lock (firewall) that only locks when the lights are out (due to some twisted/faulty wiring in the lock device), but you brought a lamp (Folding@Home) into your living room where the lock is and left it on all the time. This caused your lock to never lock, so someone snuck in and tried stealing your TV.

Instead of getting rid of the lamp (maybe a good idea in your case though, since your family members like to sleep in the living room), you should focus on fixing the lock.

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It ran slowly because it's set automatically to use 100% of the CPU!

What kind of firewall are you using, anyway? Look, I have the security system of a private home style Fort Knox and none of my detection programs has ever indicated Folding@Home is anything to fear, and besides, it's from Standford freaking University, a primere university in the country!

No, it sounds more like coincidence...because of the increased CPU usage your firewall didn't function well--or it's just not a good firewall--and some program took advantage of that. Setting Folding@Home to use much less of the CPU would work splendidly, at least in terms of the slowdown. It wasn't really so much the fault of the program itself as it was the extensive usage of the CPU. I'd probably see something similiar if it was utilizing both of my CPU cores instead of just one.

By the way, what browser do you use? Do you run regular antivirus and spyware checks? What software do you use for each? I ask all of these questions because I KNOW it's not Folding@Home causing the problems you're facing.

Unless it really did cause his firewall to crash, someone port scanned him while the firewall was down, and then that person hacked into his computer (which being a PC running Windows, probably had some outstanding, easily know vulnerability in a running service that was now visible).

Sure, the real problem would be his firewall is crap, but if Folding@Home is the only thing his family uses that can crash it, then a realistic solution is simply not running Folding@Home.

I mean, a draw bridge that falls open whenever you do heavy construction inside your castle is still useful for protecting your castle as long as you don't do any heavy construction.